Barrow AFC v Luton Town Match Thread

[Micky]

The teams failure to score many goals is worrying, Two home games this week without a goal from open play, Even with games in hand I am not all that confident that Barrow can stay out of the relegation fight. On the last few performances, I wonder are the players up for that fight.

[John L]

totally agree there was deffo 1800 there. on talking to nelthorphe before the game i asked him why he never signed for us he replied they only offered me a month contract which i can believe the board are so tunnel vissioned on that crossbar they want to see what really brings the crowd in A GOOD TEAM

Nelthorpe wouldn't have been elligible for most of our games in January as he'd have missed some due to the bad weather and also been cup-tied for the Trophy and Lancs Cup matches so that only left Rushden and today he may have played in which was also presumably a consideration.
As LB says he's facing serious charges in court (his case is in the next fortnight I think) and could be facing a custodial sentence or other restrictions if he's found guilty. Would you extend his contract till the end of the season not knowing what hight happen in his court case that could see him unavailable for some time after next weekend?

[Ace]

A game of few chances, not for the first time for us this season.
You could not fault anyone for attitude and effort , a few of our better players had off days today (Spender, Walker)
I agree with some previous posts I cant remember when we've had a real 10-15 minute spell of pressure in any game this season where we've fashioned 2 or 3 chances, although we were playing Luton today.
A word on our wide players. Its obvious with the loan players we have had in the side this season that Logan and Rutherford lack their class.
Rudders is definitely a trier but unfortunately he flatters to deceive. If you judge him on his goals and assists this season then that tells the story.

Did anyone notice that we left Logan up front when defending corners, maybe the missing 200 will return now.

[ficklefanhater]

on talking to nelthorphe before the game i asked him why he never signed for us he replied they only offered me a month contract which i can believe the board are so tunnel vissioned on that crossbar they want to see what really brings the crowd in A GOOD TEAM

Yeah, let's give someone who's in court for ABH a two year contract shall we? [/quot
sorry lancaster branch forgot you were out that night with them and you know what happened(innocent untill proven guillty)luton dont agree with you.i was TALKING ABOUT ON LOAN

[ficklefanhater]

Regarding the attendance the 1579 comprised 302 from Luton.
However one thing to bear in mind is that as the hospitality isn't counted and this can distort the gates by quite a lot. Today we had 160 corporates and most of these would have been sat in the Main Stand. I think you can also deduct the 30-40 officials in the directors box as well. The Stand wasn't completely full either as there were spaces in the 'B' and 'W' so at a guess there'd be about 700 in the Stand who paid or were season ticket holders. There were Luton fans in the Holker end so that leaves around 550-600 in the rest of the ground. There may have been some freebies as well which aren't counted. I certainly didn't think the Popular Side was crowded today.
Clearly when we play someone like Grays there were probably only 40 or so in the hospitality and the crowd difference is minimal and maybe not so noticeable.

Regarding the match why didn't we change things earlier than we did and put Powell on as we were very static and predictable and didn't really create an awful lot. How many shots did we have on target? Got to agree with Reg in that we don't create an awful lot going forward.
The annoying thing is that Luton didn't look anything special and its disappointing we conceeded another goal from a corner, wasn't too long back when DB was saying we don't conceed from corners!!!

so the hospitality crew dont pay a thing and were blind folds?come on tidds stop bum licking i think beter of you than that

[ficklefanhater]

totally agree there was deffo 1800 there. on talking to nelthorphe before the game i asked him why he never signed for us he replied they only offered me a month contract which i can believe the board are so tunnel vissioned on that crossbar they want to see what really brings the crowd in A GOOD TEAM

Nelthorpe wouldn't have been elligible for most of our games in January as he'd have missed some due to the bad weather and also been cup-tied for the Trophy and Lancs Cup matches so that only left Rushden and today he may have played in which was also presumably a consideration.
As LB says he's facing serious charges in court (his case is in the next fortnight I think) and could be facing a custodial sentence or other restrictions if he's found guilty. Would you extend his contract till the end of the season not knowing what hight happen in his court case that could see him unavailable for some time after next weekend?

probably luton have took this in to consideration.same as any job you go down you dont get paid void contract simple worth a punt dont you think tidds

[GTBLUE]

Why do people on here go on and on and on (you know who you are) go on for paragraphs about how we played,when, in three words....we were [SwearFilter].

[John L]

probably luton have took this in to consideration.same as any job you go down you dont get paid void contract simple worth a punt dont you think tidds

Not true. Last season a club in Ryman/Conf South had a player get sent down and his club stopped paying him when he was banged up. The player took the club to court and won because there wasn't anything specific enough in his contract about the reasons for why the club had to stop paying him his contract money.

so the hospitality crew dont pay a thing and were blind folds?come on tidds stop bum licking i think beter of you than that

Wrong again, the corporates cash is subject to a different level of tax/VAT to what the gate money is, which is why the corporate money is seperate from the gate money or that's how I understand it.

[Stephen Leonard]

the corporates cash is subject to a different level of tax/VAT to what the gate money is, .

No it isnt. VAT is charged at the same rate (17.5%) on all income the club recieves (except for a small number of things that are zero rated /exempt from VAT - such as raffles, lottery).

[SN2]

The game against Kiddy is off as they are playing in the Trophy. If we don't beat Gateshead on Tuesday then I hope we can re-arrange a game for that day. A blank Saturday with a busy March coming up would not be ideal.

AFC Wimbledon away would tick the boxes, they haven't got a game, would save a trip on a Tuesday night, but don't know if they'd be ideal opponents at this time. Anyway, hopefully it'll be York at home that day

No chance Wimbledon have rearranged Luton for then.

They got that one in early, they were supposed to be at home to Tamworth that day and wouldn't have known they weren't until late Tues eve.
Maybe they fancy their chances more on a Tues night, especially as we'd been playing Sat-Tues-Sat since probably now, once we re-arrange one for 23rd Feb

[ficklefanhater]

probably luton have took this in to consideration.same as any job you go down you dont get paid void contract simple worth a punt dont you think tidds

Not true. Last season a club in Ryman/Conf South had a player get sent down and his club stopped paying him when he was banged up. The player took the club to court and won because there wasn't anything specific enough in his contract about the reasons for why the club had to stop paying him his contract money.

so the hospitality crew dont pay a thing and were blind folds?come on tidds stop bum licking i think beter of you than that

Wrong again, the corporates cash is subject to a different level of tax/VAT to what the gate money is, which is why the corporate money is seperate from the gate money or that's how I understand it.

but was he all ready contracted to the club tidds?were as we could have agreed on something with him or york beforehand

[ficklefanhater]

the corporates cash is subject to a different level of tax/VAT to what the gate money is, .

No it isnt. VAT is charged at the same rate (17.5%) on all income the club recieves (except for a small number of things that are zero rated /exempt from VAT - such as raffles, lottery).

so there tidds

[Lancaster Branch]

BTW, isn't it sodding typical that if Luton had gone ahead with their planned substitution then Hatch would have been off for Nelthorpe before he scored his goal. It was only Gnapka going down for a short spell that kept him on the pitch

[Lisa]

I don't think we were that bad today and deserved at least a point. The officials were of the usual standard expected at Holker Street.

Glad to see Jonah back today and think he deserved his MOM. If we are to make any more loan signings please can it be for a left back.

[Manchester Branch]

We need to go back to basics in training. Crossing and shooting. Practice, practice, practice. The first decent cross of the game came from Wiles in the last couple of minutes and there was no one anywhere near it. Our shooting was woeful. If we got a few on target at least we'd get rebounds and chances that way. Their keeper and defence looked dodgy and we hardly tested them. Too many balls on the railway tracks tonight.