17/18 VNL - Ebbsfleet 3 - 2 Barrow

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Re: Ebbsfleet v Barrow match thread

Post by Bingo » Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:43 pm

Couldn't go today after having an accident in week. Radio Cumbria putting a good spin on it, I just hope the club aren't tempted to give the job to Hornby. We need a proper experienced manager

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Re: Ebbsfleet v Barrow match thread

Post by Kieran » Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:43 pm

Jim wrote: Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:24 pm
Jim wrote: Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:23 pm

My understanding from the article below is that they should be deciding on a manager in the next couple of weeks:

http://www.nwemail.co.uk/sport/barrow-a ... 8ac0d7c-ds
Exactly, why it needs to take so long I don't know. The need for a proper manager is urgent, it needs to happen now.

And people would soon complain if recruitment was not done thoroughly with shortlisting and interviews.
Not me.

We know who the decent managers out there are. Let's be proactive, go out there and make something happen. We haven't got time to be [SwearFilter] about whatever Andrew Casson says.

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Re: Ebbsfleet v Barrow match thread

Post by Lowtower » Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:47 pm

Tom Brownlee wrote: Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:42 pm My missus, one of those kinds of people who tries to contribute to football discussion but annoyingly falls short of substance, says to me after that result "How can the players be expected to perform to their best with all the managerial unrest going on? The people behind the scenes need to take a long look at themselves!!"

Eye-watering good logic.
Is she interested in the managers job ?

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Re: Ebbsfleet v Barrow match thread

Post by Bluebird_john » Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:47 pm

thegaffer77 wrote: Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:39 pm
whitty1969 wrote: Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:35 pm

He resigned.....
People seem to forget that. He did great. Then left us in the mire. Now we need to bloody move on and get Barrow AFC back into shape.
Wasn't treated by the club as if he was the best manager in non league. Ogden was treated as the messiah though and even he went! Obviously a reason

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Re: Ebbsfleet v Barrow match thread

Post by Bluebarrowman » Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:48 pm

Bingo wrote: Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:43 pm Couldn't go today after having an accident in week. Radio Cumbria putting a good spin on it, I just hope the club aren't tempted to give the job to Hornby. We need a proper experienced manager

Bang on the money there Bingo

Need an experienced guy in sooner rather than later.

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Re: Ebbsfleet v Barrow match thread

Post by Bingo » Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:50 pm

We have full time professional players who are earning a good wage, if that isn't enough to put in 100 percent effort i don't know what is.

Pre match ratio Cumbria were slagging off Barrow fans for having a go at club officials at games, but whatever your view and whats right and wrong if you spend a lot of money and effort travelling up and down the country frustrations boil over.

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Re: Ebbsfleet v Barrow match thread

Post by Pedro » Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:52 pm

Bluebarrowman wrote: Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:34 pm
Pedro wrote: Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:21 pm
It's not going to change overnight need a new Manager in.
We need to get a decent centre forward white not up to it,Bauress poor.
Not sure why Dixon replaced Moore who did nothing wrong but was dropped so hopefully a change will be made when we play Chester
A new Manager will have to be given funds to buy a decent centre forward, midfielder and centre half.
Maybe a centre half or midfield player Manager

Ok for a bit of facts Pedro

White is our top scoring forward with four goals
Double the amount of goals Harrison has scored in open play
Four times the amount Yousuff has scored
Harry has got one penalty goal
So have a look at his record Pedro before coming out with shite
All about opinions so zip it

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Re: Ebbsfleet v Barrow match thread

Post by Richard Ingham » Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:52 pm

blue nige wrote: Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:25 pm This might sound awful but I'd like a northern manager and bring in some more northern based players because I don't believe we have enough fight in our players!
I agree.

A team full of Mancs and Scousers that scrap for everything put graft over fancy touches and "nice" football.

This is the National League not the Premiership, nice football in this division gets you nowhere.

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Re: Ebbsfleet v Barrow match thread

Post by Lowtower » Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:54 pm

Bingo wrote: Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:50 pm We have full time professional players who are earning a good wage, if that isn't enough to put in 100 percent effort i don't know what is.

Pre match ratio Cumbria were slagging off Barrow fans for having a go at club officials at games, but whatever your view and whats right and wrong if you spend a lot of money and effort travelling up and down the country frustrations boil over.
Radio Cumbria can [SwearFilter] off with their north of county bias and constant stirring of the pot.

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Re: Ebbsfleet v Barrow match thread

Post by tictactoe » Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:58 pm

Lowtower wrote: Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:21 pm
Bluebird_john wrote: Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:17 pm

How'd you mean?
+1

Why Byron Harrison ?
Because I had a bit of a go at him last season. Away at Tranmere I was getting train back to Crewe and had a bit of a wait so went for a coffee in Costa- Byron and another not sure if akil Wright were having a discussion along the lines of oh well it’s only a cup match not the league blah de blah and Byron went on to say how shit the league was and we need to get out of it. Thing is all the shit teams he mentioned beat barrow last year. Also they were going on about a player, no names, who thought he was better than everyone and deserved to be in team every week - needless to say I let him carry on for a while and then told him what a disgrace he was after the display I’d just watched where the players were bloody awful etc and how if those teams were shit how bad were we
Was disgusted how he was talking in a public place about team mates and clubs in general
My attitude towards him then went right down then and tbh hasn’t changed - get the chip off your shoulder and realise the club is where it is and down to the players that step on that pitch

Sorry you did ask :lol:
everyone is entitled to their opinion, deal with it

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Re: Ebbsfleet v Barrow match thread

Post by Lowtower » Sat Oct 21, 2017 6:01 pm

tictactoe wrote: Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:58 pm
Lowtower wrote: Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:21 pm

+1

Why Byron Harrison ?
Because I had a bit of a go at him last season. Away at Tranmere I was getting train back to Crewe and had a bit of a wait so went for a coffee in Costa- Byron and another not sure if akil Wright were having a discussion along the lines of oh well it’s only a cup match not the league blah de blah and Byron went on to say how shit the league was and we need to get out of it. Thing is all the shit teams he mentioned beat barrow last year. Also they were going on about a player, no names, who thought he was better than everyone and deserved to be in team every week - needless to say I let him carry on for a while and then told him what a disgrace he was after the display I’d just watched where the players were bloody awful etc and how if those teams were shit how bad were we
Was disgusted how he was talking in a public place about team mates and clubs in general
My attitude towards him then went right down then and tbh hasn’t changed - get the chip off your shoulder and realise the club is where it is and down to the players that step on that pitch

Sorry you did ask :lol:
Fair enough if thats what you heard.

Not had a problem with Byron myself, but sometimes frustrations get the better of everyone and that includes players.

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Re: Ebbsfleet v Barrow match thread

Post by tictactoe » Sat Oct 21, 2017 6:19 pm

That is what I heard lol
Frustration nothing to do with it he wasn’t even playing that day but anyone and everyone could hear him if they wanted too
everyone is entitled to their opinion, deal with it

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Re: Ebbsfleet v Barrow match thread

Post by spirit of 1990 » Sat Oct 21, 2017 6:26 pm

Bluebird_john wrote: Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:32 pm Paul Cox's Guiseley - last 2 games: 2 wins, 10 scored, 2 conceded.

However, the football is shite and 7th isn't good enough.
Why keep sticking things like that in.....he was never going to stay! He wanted away and he's gone, and not for the reasons some would have you believe.
We didn't underestimate them, we just didn't think they were that good.

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Re: Ebbsfleet v Barrow match thread

Post by Suffolk Blue » Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:07 pm

Cant blame Hornby for anything that happened this afternoon who was animated on the touchline. I thought a bit like Moore he selected his squad to fit into the "right" formation on the pitch and expected it to function. In that respect the performance was (to an extent) pretty competent, especially box-to-box. However no passion, no incisiveness, no real fight. poor attitudes and a malaise that you could almost smell shows how bad things currently are. Two Barrow goals were virtual gimmees but hope realistically lasted for 5 minutes after the first equaliser after which they withered and died.

There's a paradox about this team. At the moment I doubt there's many teams looking much more like relegation fodder than us based on current performances. However the irony is that you also get the impression that this is also a squad with the ability to avoid relegation with relative ease if they could only raise their confidence and intensity levels. Its very disappointing to watch because its so predictable. It will not solve itself by promises of gradual incremental change. Feels to me that something pretty radical is increasingly required.

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Re: Ebbsfleet v Barrow match thread

Post by mickmike wilson » Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:17 pm

Matty wrote: Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:31 pm The longer it takes to appoint a manager, the number of games he has to turn it around lessens. By now I would liked to have hoped that three (decent ones I hope) managers would’ve been shortlisted for interviews while the rest of the CVs would’ve been binned, you could even say interviews should be taking place already.
A hasty ill advised knee jerk appointment WILL take us down, Need to get this one right & who’s to say they haven’t started interviewing as the various articles suggest they have.

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