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Post by Mancbluebird » Sun Sep 12, 2021 3:18 pm

MisterPleasant wrote: Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:27 pm
Jonty wrote: Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:21 pm One day a week access to training / pitch facilities for a full time league club doesn’t feel like a solution to training. Where else do we train?
This has been answered countless times. Rakesmoor Lane on the day before a home game and, presumably, we arrange somewhere local to away grounds.
With all due respect holkers slanting pitch is not football league standard.

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Post by MisterPleasant » Sun Sep 12, 2021 4:25 pm

Mancbluebird wrote: Sun Sep 12, 2021 3:18 pm
MisterPleasant wrote: Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:27 pm
This has been answered countless times. Rakesmoor Lane on the day before a home game and, presumably, we arrange somewhere local to away grounds.
With all due respect holkers slanting pitch is not football league standard.
I'm not claiming it is but it's the one that the manager praised, if I remember rightly, after the pre-season opener.
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Post by bluessupporter » Sun Sep 12, 2021 4:47 pm

Mancbluebird wrote: Sun Sep 12, 2021 3:18 pm

With all due respect holkers slanting pitch is not football league standard.
It’s grass though! And Holker are doing well on it at the moment!😉

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Post by Hadrian » Sun Sep 12, 2021 7:05 pm

Jonty wrote: Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:21 pm One day a week access to training / pitch facilities for a full time league club doesn’t feel like a solution to training. Where else do we train?
A starting point would be to ask what is a typical week for a professional footballer with only a Saturday game to play - how is it divided between rest, individual recovery exercises, physio monitoring, gym work, on-pitch coaching and so on. (We apparently have use of a fitness centre and use of our own rooms in Wilmslow, which, if I recall correctly, our manager was very pleased with.)

Presumably, in general, one weekday (Monday?) will be a day off in lieu of working on Saturday and many Fridays will include travel to Barrow (for home games) or somewhere far-flung (for distant away games) where Pre-match training will take place.

I did submit a question for Paul Jones on Friday's BBCRC coverage about how, what and where training was in the FA Trophy season (and what was done differently in the week of the final) but that appeared not to have made the cut.

I would find it interesting to learn how that contrasts with a typical week's programme nowadays in League 2 with the benefit of strength and conditioning coaches, Catapult monitoring and so on.

I think our manager spoke of it taking up to three years for a club promoted to the EFL to develop appropriate structures and facilities. We are fifteen months on since promotion was confirmed.

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Post by Mancbluebird » Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:00 pm

Hadrian wrote: Sun Sep 12, 2021 7:05 pm
Jonty wrote: Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:21 pm One day a week access to training / pitch facilities for a full time league club doesn’t feel like a solution to training. Where else do we train?
A starting point would be to ask what is a typical week for a professional footballer with only a Saturday game to play - how is it divided between rest, individual recovery exercises, physio monitoring, gym work, on-pitch coaching and so on. (We apparently have use of a fitness centre and use of our own rooms in Wilmslow, which, if I recall correctly, our manager was very pleased with.)

Presumably, in general, one weekday (Monday?) will be a day off in lieu of working on Saturday and many Fridays will include travel to Barrow (for home games) or somewhere far-flung (for distant away games) where Pre-match training will take place.

I did submit a question for Paul Jones on Friday's BBCRC coverage about how, what and where training was in the FA Trophy season (and what was done differently in the week of the final) but that appeared not to have made the cut.

I would find it interesting to learn how that contrasts with a typical week's programme nowadays in League 2 with the benefit of strength and conditioning coaches, Catapult monitoring and so on.

I think our manager spoke of it taking up to three years for a club promoted to the EFL to develop appropriate structures and facilities. We are fifteen months on since promotion was confirmed.
What did Evatt do to make us so professional interests me that has been stated quite a lot previously and how did we in theory slip backwards that would be interesting in the next meet the directors night for an answer

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Post by Main Stand SeasonTct » Mon Sep 13, 2021 9:45 am

Mancbluebird wrote: Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:00 pm
What did Evatt do to make us so professional interests me that has been stated quite a lot previously and how did we in theory slip backwards that would be interesting in the next meet the directors night for an answer
Evatt made good use of Hopwood Hall that for him proved to be a a good venue. He also brought in the Friday night stop overs at the Dunes prior to a Saturday home game and the light training sessions at various venues in Barrow on Friday afternoons before Saturday home games.
Unfortunately the pandemic was the start of us slipping backwards IMO and brought unforeseen difficulties at Hopwood Hall. Limited preparation of training pitches and social distancing from other users at Hopwood Hall made Evatts replacement David Dunn ask the board to move training venues. The various places we have trained at since and this seasons debacle is well documented

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Post by Hadrian » Mon Sep 13, 2021 3:58 pm

I recall that an outside coaching organisation was also involved at times with coaching and skills drills at Hopwood. They put some videos on YouTube as examples of their work which looked impressive but a cursory glance at YouTube hasn't allowed them to leap out at me.

(Similarly, but unrelated being from pre-Evatt, a video of Tim Erlandsson training seems to have disappeared. (Not this one!)

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Post by tictactoe » Sat Sep 18, 2021 11:27 am

Now an article in a national newspaper stating no training facilities, no balls, bibs or cones to use in pre match warm up and rats in the halfway house the players stay in. Embarrassing
everyone is entitled to their opinion, deal with it

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Post by Zuluwarrior » Sat Sep 18, 2021 1:02 pm

MisterPleasant wrote: Sun Sep 12, 2021 4:25 pm
Mancbluebird wrote: Sun Sep 12, 2021 3:18 pm

With all due respect holkers slanting pitch is not football league standard.
I'm not claiming it is but it's the one that the manager praised, if I remember rightly, after the pre-season opener.
Credit to Holker for letting us use there facilities but I wonder how they will feel in the depths of winter and there ground is soft and muddy, can’t imagine there players and staff being to pleased to have us digging it all up especially on the same day as they have a match.

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Post by Matty » Sat Sep 18, 2021 1:21 pm

tictactoe wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 11:27 am Now an article in a national newspaper stating no training facilities, no balls, bibs or cones to use in pre match warm up and rats in the halfway house the players stay in. Embarrassing
Link?
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Post by Jim » Sat Sep 18, 2021 7:27 pm

Matty wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 1:21 pm
tictactoe wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 11:27 am Now an article in a national newspaper stating no training facilities, no balls, bibs or cones to use in pre match warm up and rats in the halfway house the players stay in. Embarrassing
Link?
Link to screenshot of the article is on the ‘TheManager’ thread.

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Post by tictactoe » Sat Sep 18, 2021 10:14 pm

Matty wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 1:21 pm
tictactoe wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 11:27 am Now an article in a national newspaper stating no training facilities, no balls, bibs or cones to use in pre match warm up and rats in the halfway house the players stay in. Embarrassing
Link?
If I knew how to I would lol - I was told it was The Sun
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Post by bluessupporter » Sat Sep 18, 2021 10:47 pm

tictactoe wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 10:14 pm
Matty wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 1:21 pm

Link?

If I knew how to I would lol - I was told it was The Sun

There is no link available. You can see the article on the 'The Manager' thread. Should be shredded like the miserable newspaper.

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Post by tictactoe » Sun Sep 19, 2021 10:28 am

It may be The Sun, however imo still embarrassing for the club for an article like that to be printed. Doesn’t paint is in a very good light let’s be honest. Although it says the board are trying to rectify the problems, they shouldn’t be there in the first place
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Post by kenny lowe fan club » Tue Oct 26, 2021 7:22 pm

Where is our new training base? Adam metioned it on his post match interview on Saturday with Cooper but I didn't catch where it is.

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