Statement by Paul Casson.

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Re: Statement by Paul Casson.

Post by xerxes » Sun Aug 27, 2017 12:45 pm

K-Man wrote: Sat Aug 26, 2017 1:55 pm
Fazered wrote: Sat Aug 26, 2017 1:50 pm

Can anyone understand what he is saying?
Yep very easily. Lots of people said Paul Cox wouldn't be here after Christmas.
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Re: Statement by Paul Casson.

Post by The Real Slim Azza » Sun Aug 27, 2017 12:47 pm

Jo am back wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2017 12:15 pm
The Real Slim a former member of this forum wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:11 am

Not negative . Just realistic.

Most fans have grown tired of broken promises and a regime described by former employees as "a shitstorm".
How is it realistic,in reality if Paul Casson hadnt come along when he did,bought the club,ploughed money into the club,the club Ive supported
for decades was on the bones of its arse,hundreds of thousands in dept. thats being realistic.if he chooses to put as much money in as it takes to allow us to compete at this level then im happy,why should he waste all his money on building a new stadium,funding unrealistic targets,what' he has done so far is good enough for me,Im sure there's even more to come. Your not a supporter thats obvious for everyone to see.

I think this might be the last time I say this because the rhetoric of saying Casson saved the club is extremely boring. Home truths are pointed out and the reply is ALWAYS " CASSON SAVED THE CLUB ,WE WOULDN'T EXIST REYREYREYRYEYRYEYRYEY" its boring as [SwearFilter].

We know Casson bought out the club in its time of need. We know that. It happened. Its history. No one is saying that was a bad thing. Not even me.

The issue is that the clubs seemingly letting this 10th cats life go to waste. All the potential just no ideas or implementation.

The moment you say that its Paul Cassons club and he can do what he wants then youve given up. Youve lost your football team.

The reality is that the club is floating without an engine or direction at the moment in the hope of the off chance it meets its destination.

Theres no vision, the wrong people have been employed in important roles and most importantly promises have been broken, time and time again.

This week weve seen a former employee describe the club being run as a shit storm. Someone who was in there day in day out seeing how things run.

If people choose to ignore that then thats fine. Thats unfortunately the reality of whats going on.
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Re: Statement by Paul Casson.

Post by barrowfan » Sun Aug 27, 2017 12:48 pm

Presumably the person doing the background checks was Paul Ogden which perhaps explains
why he was brought in behind Cox's back.

Talking to those in the know yesterday it appears that Casson and Cox hadn't been seeing eye to eye for a while and Casson was engineering to part company with Cox at no cost and Cox had had enough anyway.

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Re: Statement by Paul Casson.

Post by barrowscuba » Sun Aug 27, 2017 12:54 pm

A fair few stories circulating yesterday. Cox may have been angling to get out as far back as last January to move on to bigger things. From that point Casson wouldn't release funds for obvious hoofball players which frustrated Cox. Some players were also looking to get away during the summer due to the hoofball ethos.

The truth probably sits somewhere between the stories from both sides but it seems obvious that neither party trusted each other.

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Re: Statement by Paul Casson.

Post by bigmac95 » Sun Aug 27, 2017 1:03 pm

The Real Slim a former member of this forum wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2017 12:47 pm
Jo am back wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2017 12:15 pm
How is it realistic,in reality if Paul Casson hadnt come along when he did,bought the club,ploughed money into the club,the club Ive supported
for decades was on the bones of its arse,hundreds of thousands in dept. thats being realistic.if he chooses to put as much money in as it takes to allow us to compete at this level then im happy,why should he waste all his money on building a new stadium,funding unrealistic targets,what' he has done so far is good enough for me,Im sure there's even more to come. Your not a supporter thats obvious for everyone to see.



I think this might be the last time I say this because the rhetoric of saying Casson saved the club is extremely boring. Home truths are pointed out and the reply is ALWAYS " CASSON SAVED THE CLUB ,WE WOULDN'T EXIST REYREYREYRYEYRYEYRYEY" its boring as [SwearFilter].

We know Casson bought out the club in its time of need. We know that. It happened. Its history. No one is saying that was a bad thing. Not even me.

The issue is that the clubs seemingly letting this 10th cats life go to waste. All the potential just no ideas or implementation.

The moment you say that its Paul Cassons club and he can do what he wants then youve given up. Youve lost your football team.

The reality is that the club is floating without an engine or direction at the moment in the hope of the off chance it meets its destination.

Theres no vision, the wrong people have been employed in important roles and most importantly promises have been broken, time and time again.

This week weve seen a former employee describe the club being run as a shit storm. Someone who was in there day in day out seeing how things run.

If people choose to ignore that then thats fine. Thats unfortunately the reality of whats going on.
Couldn't agree more! Great post.
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Re: Statement by Paul Casson.

Post by russell_anderson » Sun Aug 27, 2017 1:37 pm

The Real Slim a former member of this forum wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2017 12:47 pm The moment you say that its Paul Cassons club and he can do what he wants then youve given up.
The fact is that, as long as Paul Casson is the owner, he CAN do exactly what he wants and if anybody thinks otherwise then he or she is living in a dreamworld! In actual fact, I have a lot of sympathy with many of the points you make and certainly have some unease about the direction in which the club is moving but you weaken your arguments by continually repeating them and also by never admitting you're wrong on any subject. Most logical thinking people know they are right some of the time and wrong some of the time and any sensible person disregards the opinions of people who insist they are always right.

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Re: Statement by Paul Casson.

Post by thegaffer77 » Sun Aug 27, 2017 2:19 pm

russell_anderson wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2017 1:37 pm
The Real Slim a former member of this forum wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2017 12:47 pm The moment you say that its Paul Cassons club and he can do what he wants then youve given up.
The fact is that, as long as Paul Casson is the owner, he CAN do exactly what he wants and if anybody thinks otherwise then he or she is living in a dreamworld! In actual fact, I have a lot of sympathy with many of the points you make and certainly have some unease about the direction in which the club is moving but you weaken your arguments by continually repeating them and also by never admitting you're wrong on any subject. Most logical thinking people know they are right some of the time and wrong some of the time and any sensible person disregards the opinions of people who insist they are always right.
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Re: Statement by Paul Casson.

Post by glasgow_blue » Sun Aug 27, 2017 2:37 pm

russell_anderson wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2017 1:37 pm
The Real Slim a former member of this forum wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2017 12:47 pm The moment you say that its Paul Cassons club and he can do what he wants then youve given up.
The fact is that, as long as Paul Casson is the owner, he CAN do exactly what he wants and if anybody thinks otherwise then he or she is living in a dreamworld! In actual fact, I have a lot of sympathy with many of the points you make and certainly have some unease about the direction in which the club is moving but you weaken your arguments by continually repeating them and also by never admitting you're wrong on any subject. Most logical thinking people know they are right some of the time and wrong some of the time and any sensible person disregards the opinions of people who insist they are always right.
But that doesn't mean questions can't be asked. Yes he's the outright owner but after making all the grandiose statement's and making all sorts of promises to get control of the football club, the fact they haven't been backed up, any questions asked or criticism of the owner is legitimate imo.
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Post by whitty1969 » Sun Aug 27, 2017 3:34 pm

bigmac95 wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2017 1:03 pm
The Real Slim a former member of this forum wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2017 12:47 pm




I think this might be the last time I say this because the rhetoric of saying Casson saved the club is extremely boring. Home truths are pointed out and the reply is ALWAYS " CASSON SAVED THE CLUB ,WE WOULDN'T EXIST REYREYREYRYEYRYEYRYEY" its boring as [SwearFilter].

We know Casson bought out the club in its time of need. We know that. It happened. Its history. No one is saying that was a bad thing. Not even me.

The issue is that the clubs seemingly letting this 10th cats life go to waste. All the potential just no ideas or implementation.

The moment you say that its Paul Cassons club and he can do what he wants then youve given up. Youve lost your football team.

The reality is that the club is floating without an engine or direction at the moment in the hope of the off chance it meets its destination.

Theres no vision, the wrong people have been employed in important roles and most importantly promises have been broken, time and time again.

This week weve seen a former employee describe the club being run as a shit storm. Someone who was in there day in day out seeing how things run.

If people choose to ignore that then thats fine. Thats unfortunately the reality of whats going on.
Couldn't agree more! Great post.
Finally, that's the last time you say it....thank god for that.....

On a separate note, good job PC came in and saved the club....who knows where we would be now.... :D

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Re: Statement by Paul Casson.

Post by Fazered » Sun Aug 27, 2017 4:39 pm

bigmac95 wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2017 1:03 pm
The Real Slim a former member of this forum wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2017 12:47 pm




I think this might be the last time I say this because the rhetoric of saying Casson saved the club is extremely boring. Home truths are pointed out and the reply is ALWAYS " CASSON SAVED THE CLUB ,WE WOULDN'T EXIST REYREYREYRYEYRYEYRYEY" its boring as [SwearFilter].

We know Casson bought out the club in its time of need. We know that. It happened. Its history. No one is saying that was a bad thing. Not even me.

The issue is that the clubs seemingly letting this 10th cats life go to waste. All the potential just no ideas or implementation.

The moment you say that its Paul Cassons club and he can do what he wants then youve given up. Youve lost your football team.

The reality is that the club is floating without an engine or direction at the moment in the hope of the off chance it meets its destination.

Theres no vision, the wrong people have been employed in important roles and most importantly promises have been broken, time and time again.

This week weve seen a former employee describe the club being run as a shit storm. Someone who was in there day in day out seeing how things run.

If people choose to ignore that then thats fine. Thats unfortunately the reality of whats going on.
Couldn't agree more! Great post.
Couldn't agree less. Load of total utter crap
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Post by The Real Slim Azza » Sun Aug 27, 2017 5:20 pm

Fazered wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2017 4:39 pm
bigmac95 wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2017 1:03 pm

Couldn't agree more! Great post.
Couldn't agree less. Load of total utter crap
What parts? Or have you just disagreed because you dont want to accept it?
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Re: Statement by Paul Casson.

Post by bigmac95 » Sun Aug 27, 2017 5:28 pm

The Real Slim a former member of this forum wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2017 5:20 pm
Fazered wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2017 4:39 pm

Couldn't agree less. Load of total utter crap
What parts? Or have you just disagreed because you dont want to accept it?
Because you wrote it. If one of the blinkers brigade had wrote it he'd have loved it.
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Re: Statement by Paul Casson.

Post by glasgow_blue » Sun Aug 27, 2017 5:31 pm

The Real Slim a former member of this forum wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2017 5:20 pm
Fazered wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2017 4:39 pm

Couldn't agree less. Load of total utter crap
What parts? Or have you just disagreed because you dont want to accept it?
a former member of this forum, it's the same posters, very negative imo. They just say, this post's shit, that post's shit without ever saying why or offering anything constructive.
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Re: Statement by Paul Casson.

Post by MikeRenney » Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:05 pm

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You say the club is floating with no direction and without an engine. I say it is a temporary hiatus that you get in football when you lose your manager. Hopefully, the new manager will be better than the old, who had to go no question. Remember Paul Casson appointed Paul Cox so he did okay there, now he has to repeat the trick, not easy. As for appointing a new CEO I can not see what improvements that would bring. The club is in good hands and given a bit of luck we will enjoy future success. We are competing against clubs with their own millionaire owners so having money is not a guarantee of success. We need sensible heads and the support of the fans.
As for broken promises perhaps it is time to cut the owner a bit of slack. Not sure exactly what was promised and when but he now seems to have a better realisation of what is required. This has lead to the idea of the redevelopment of the Steelworks end being an aspiration, now it may not happen but I think it has a far better chance of happening with Paul Casson in charge than without him.

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Post by The Real Slim Azza » Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:12 pm

glasgow_blue wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2017 5:31 pm
The Real Slim a former member of this forum wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2017 5:20 pm

What parts? Or have you just disagreed because you dont want to accept it?
a former member of this forum, it's the same posters, very negative imo. They just say, this post's shit, that post's shit without ever saying why or offering anything constructive.
Dont forget the old " [SwearFilter] off to Fylde".

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Sides adding to it rather than one just dominating all the time.
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