FAT: Brackley Town Match Thread

[mickmike wilson]

Wonder if any other team in our league asks players to pay for their own hotels.

Don’t waste. cheery pick opportunity to question the clubs methods do you....Boring as...

I question the lack of discipline throughout the squad, Adi explained all the effort the management put in & the finer details they have introduced like eating together at training etc & various other things which won’t be cheap for the club.

I hope it was an exercise by Adi to test the players resolve, togetherness & disciplne & they failed miserably, Question I want answering is were they TOLD or ASKED to stay over & were they informed collectively or through the Captain & if the Captain, Did he inform the players or not.

[Steeley]

Wonder if any other team in our league asks players to pay for their own hotels.

Don’t waste. cheery pick opportunity to question the clubs methods do you....Boring as...

I question the lack of discipline throughout the squad, Adi explained all the effort the management put in & the finer details they have introduced like eating together at training etc & various other things which won’t be cheap for the club.

I hope it was an exercise by Adi to test the players resolve, togetherness & disciplne & they failed miserably, Question I want answering is were they TOLD or ASKED to stay over & were they informed collectively or through the Captain & if the Captain, Did he inform the players or not.

Sounds like the players are a bag of shite, not defending them. But the whole show seems to be a bag of shite from the top down. Asking employees to pay for a hotel for some unknown reason just adds to the list.

No real connections or loyalty in modern football so clubs must find other ways of engaging players into clubs.

[McMark]

Not going to knock the players over the £25 they were asked to pay to stop over. If my employer was sending me somewhere then asking me to contribute to a stay over he would of been told in no uncertain terms it wasn't happening unless there was a very valid reason. So it looks like they have shown unity in not fulfilling Ady's request, amazed that it wasn't known that they had declined a stay over well before the game.
Just a shame they didn't show that same unity on the pitch as that once again was dire to say the least and is simply unacceptable. Most supporters will back effort and desire even if we fail to get the results. But performances that are abject to say the least will rightly be criticised.

[Bluebird_john]

Not going to knock the players over the £25 they were asked to pay to stop over.

+1 if this is true, absolutely shocking. How utterly unprofessional!!!

[Holkerbird]

Those comparing their employment situations to the players paying £25 for a room to stay over. Do your employers provide you with free fruit, sweets, bottles of water and pizzas for example? Do the players pay for the food after training or do the club?
Perhaps the room was more expensive than £25 and that would have been their contribution to it.
How about the hard earned money the fans forked out to watch last night's debacle?
The players are well looked after as are their families who visit Holker Street.
A sorrier bunch I have yet to see.

[Wintergreen]

This 'staying over' thing is a red herring I think; massive damage was done to the club last night and we might not be able to recover from it. When what remained of the faithful 430 booed the team off you felt a massive wedge was driven between the players and the die hard supporters.

It's what terminal decline looks like and I never thought I would see that during the current regime.

[Bingo]

Seems a strange set up with the £25 room, you really can't get anything in Barrow mid week for that money so maybe it was - you can stop in Barrow the night before the game in a subsidised room for £25 or maybe the £25 was for something else - I don't know in the interview it was not really expanded on.

[whitty1969]

Seems a strange set up with the £25 room, you really can't get anything in Barrow mid week for that money so maybe it was - you can stop in Barrow the night before the game in a subsidised room for £25 or maybe the £25 was for something else - I don't know in the interview it was not really expanded on.

Probably a £50 twin room that is a special rate to AFC as they probably take 12 rooms when staying over.
Only guessing

[Giggaboom]

Seems a strange set up with the £25 room, you really can't get anything in Barrow mid week for that money so maybe it was - you can stop in Barrow the night before the game in a subsidised room for £25 or maybe the £25 was for something else - I don't know in the interview it was not really expanded on.

Probably a £50 twin room that is a special rate to AFC as they probably take 12 rooms when staying over.
Only guessing

£25 each was proberly for a twin room and I wouldn’t be surprised if they were able to claim it back as the hotel room required was at short notice.

I was there last night it’s the worst team I’ve seen in my 25 years of watching I work hard for my hourly rate the team didn’t seem interested in the 2 hours they were on the pitch, (including warm ups and down) they should be offering to give last nights wages to charity, if that was a poor meal in a restaurant you would be asking for your money back.

I know White gets a lot of stick he was the only one last night that was trying to gee up the side the foreign players don’t look interested the long and short of it if this team takes us down they won’t be here next season to pick up the pieces so why would they care. I hope the two strikers that want off to Guisley don’t get picked on Saturday.

[barrowfan]

Perhaps the room was more expensive than £25 and that would have been their contribution to it.

That's the impression I get too.

Earlier this year Ady said he wanted a more professional approach by the club to the players and staying over the night before a game was somthing that was brought in - presumably at the club's expense.
Sounds like the club now wants a contribution to the cost which is fair enough. For those that didn't stay over how much would it have cost them in fuel to go home and come back again?

Just seems that a lot of the players have no allegiance to the club and are just in it for the money.

[ruins]

On another note, I always thought of Holker street as a place where the opposition hated coming - because of the atmosphere, the weather (usually) and our players who would be up for the game. Seems like our players hate coming here more than the opposition. Why would you sign for a team unless you loved playing at home? .. these are the questions pennock needs to put to the current players and potential new recruits. Our home form has to improve

Many of them live closer to the away grounds than Holker Steet so probably don't look forward to the trek down the A590, or have any sort of affinity with HS or the fans.

Oh for the days of the 1990 FAT when we had local lads such as Skivi, Proccy, and Cowps etc.

This is not aimed at you mate but the distance is not an issue. [SwearFilter] me how many people travel day in day out into cities in buses or trains? Every day. Not once a [SwearFilter] fortnight. And they are hardly chugging along in a lada riva are they?

The drive from the m6 to Barrow is actually a pleasant drive, nice bit of tree and hill porn etc. Imagine driving to Boston or hull every day if you lived in Manchester or somewhere similar? I think Barrow gets a shit deal with its location and the fans and club, in fact players alike use it as a poor excuse. It's a town 1 hour from Lancaster. One hour. 2 episodes of hollyoaks. 2 pints. A good album on the car radio, 4 pork pies a bottle of you and 6 b and h. 6 tugs.

Rant over

Your right bf. Players need to want to play for Barrow and travel there. If not then we will still have fun with 200 away from home in the CN. Rather have 11 players who have affiliation and contact with the fans than 11 over paid twitter users.

[The Tomahawk Kid]

Well said! And straight to the point!

Let's face it...the majority of them don't want to play for the club. Our home record is testimony to that.
They'd rather play away from Barrow - most away games being closer to home for all of them.
If they don't want to travel to play HOME games at Holker Street...get rid! And the sooner the better...

What chance have we got with this mob if it comes to a relegation battle?
Ship em out! Before it's too late...

Those players reading this thread (if any) who don't have any love for Barrow AFC - P**S Off!

[Summerof76]

Re: the overnight stays

The law states that an employer must pay expenses necessarily incurred in the course of employment. These include hotel accommodation when working away from the main point of work. So if Hopwood Hall is the main training ground and the main point of work the hotel accommodation should be paid for when staying in Barrow, unless it’s written in to the players’ contracts that Holker Street is the work base. This regardless of salary. That’s the law.

It is usual practice for companies in the UK to prepay for employees hotel rooms on a corporate card or by invoice. However, this doesn’t seem to be the American way. You claim it back. Rightly or wrongly, this is their system but not everyone can wait 2/3 weeks for expenses to be paid back. Again, regardless of salary we all have bills to pay including the players some of whom will have mortgages and young families to support.

And before anyone says ‘but it’s foitball, it’s different’. No it’s not. A business is a business and is subject to EU and UK employment law.

The players are staff and have every right to be reimbursed under the guidelines above.

If I’ve said it once I’ve said it a million times....the rot starts at the top! I’ll just put my bitter away now

[saitek]

The club should give free admission to the 430 that attended last night after the worst performance I have watched in 50years,utter garbage no pride and interest and no passion , if things don't change crowds will get lower and who can blame them paying to watch that drivel.

[HenneysKnee]

They should have reimbursed us all £15 for having to watch them last night never mind the £25 for a hotel