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Re: Retained list

Posted: Thu May 14, 2026 7:52 pm
by Cokey
Bigfathoss wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2026 7:30 pm
WalneyOne wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2026 7:24 pm

Exactly.
But if nobody is stupid enough to bid then we are stuck with him. Fingers crossed there is indeed a buyer out there.
I hope so. He’s hopeless!

Re: Retained list

Posted: Thu May 14, 2026 7:54 pm
by McMark
Now it’s about whittling the squad down, who wants to stay and fight for the new manager and promotion,who he thinks he can trust.
Some will have clauses where they can move on if relegated if they can find takers others won’t fancy a wage reduction by being integral in losing our league place.
Next week or so should give us an idea of what we have remaining.
Personally think around eight to ten of the nineteen will move on.

Re: Retained list

Posted: Thu May 14, 2026 8:07 pm
by Cokey
McMark wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2026 7:54 pm Now it’s about whittling the squad down, who wants to stay and fight for the new manager and promotion,who he thinks he can trust.
Some will have clauses where they can move on if relegated if they can find takers others won’t fancy a wage reduction by being integral in losing our league place.
Next week or so should give us an idea of what we have remaining.
Personally think around eight to ten of the nineteen will move on.
Hope so mate. Expecting a lot of change. In and out.

Re: Retained list

Posted: Thu May 14, 2026 8:09 pm
by behind the goals
Cokey wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2026 8:07 pm
McMark wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2026 7:54 pm Now it’s about whittling the squad down, who wants to stay and fight for the new manager and promotion,who he thinks he can trust.
Some will have clauses where they can move on if relegated if they can find takers others won’t fancy a wage reduction by being integral in losing our league place.
Next week or so should give us an idea of what we have remaining.
Personally think around eight to ten of the nineteen will move on.
Hope so mate. Expecting a lot of change. In and out.
How many of the 19 would the Forum Members like to see leave the Club.

Re: Retained list

Posted: Thu May 14, 2026 8:17 pm
by Jonty
Barrowvianbedlam wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2026 6:30 pm Not many complaints, can’t move a lot on due to contracts but maybe would have had Angus McDonald back for a year.

there is a nucleus of a squad who could do something.
You need 7-8 players on top of their game to carry three or four who may be having stinkers. As you get to 5 or more not having good games, you will struggle. That was the case too often. Have we got a nucleus in that retained list….. maybe.

Re: Retained list

Posted: Thu May 14, 2026 8:20 pm
by blue nige
behind the goals wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2026 8:09 pm
Cokey wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2026 8:07 pm

Hope so mate. Expecting a lot of change. In and out.
How many of the 19 would the Forum Members like to see leave the Club.
It's irrelevant let's wait to see what happens then comment.

Re: Retained list

Posted: Thu May 14, 2026 8:22 pm
by Cokey
blue nige wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2026 8:20 pm
behind the goals wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2026 8:09 pm
How many of the 19 would the Forum Members like to see leave the Club.
It's irrelevant let's wait to see what happens then comment.
Trusting Murray’s judgement. Back him, give him time and he will turn us into a good side.

Re: Retained list

Posted: Thu May 14, 2026 8:52 pm
by Barrowvianbedlam
Jonty wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2026 8:17 pm
Barrowvianbedlam wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2026 6:30 pm Not many complaints, can’t move a lot on due to contracts but maybe would have had Angus McDonald back for a year.

there is a nucleus of a squad who could do something.
You need 7-8 players on top of their game to carry three or four who may be having stinkers. As you get to 5 or more not having good games, you will struggle. That was the case too often. Have we got a nucleus in that retained list….. maybe.
There’s multiple hundreds of appearances across the premier league, championship, league one and spl in that squad, the talent has been there at some point it seems but have to start showing some bottle

Re: Retained list

Posted: Thu May 14, 2026 9:08 pm
by Jonty
Barrowvianbedlam wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2026 8:52 pm
Jonty wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2026 8:17 pm

You need 7-8 players on top of their game to carry three or four who may be having stinkers. As you get to 5 or more not having good games, you will struggle. That was the case too often. Have we got a nucleus in that retained list….. maybe.
There’s multiple hundreds of appearances across the premier league, championship, league one and spl in that squad, the talent has been there at some point it seems but have to start showing some bottle
Hmm, that doesn't mean they are ever going to gel as a unit. It hasn't worked with this squad. 20 mins here and there and the odd scrappy win was never going to be enough. I cannot think of one match we’ve dominated from start to finish in a game and i struggled to see who the leaders were out there. They've seen off 5 coaches last season. He really has got his work cut out.

Re: Retained list

Posted: Thu May 14, 2026 9:14 pm
by beachy01
behind the goals wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2026 8:09 pm
Cokey wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2026 8:07 pm

Hope so mate. Expecting a lot of change. In and out.
How many of the 19 would the Forum Members like to see leave the Club.
Id like them all to go, but if i had to chose, id keep a few like MJ Williams. So maybe 15 to leave, 4 to stay

Re: Retained list

Posted: Thu May 14, 2026 9:18 pm
by Jonty
beachy01 wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2026 9:14 pm
behind the goals wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2026 8:09 pm
How many of the 19 would the Forum Members like to see leave the Club.
Id like them all to go, but if i had to chose, id keep a few like MJ Williams. So maybe 15 to leave, 4 to stay
I still keep seeing “spine of a decent squad in there” I absolutely do not know what this is based on. 5 coaches tried. We ended worse than we started. Where is this “decent squad in there” actually coming from?

Re: Retained list

Posted: Thu May 14, 2026 9:25 pm
by Cokey
Jonty wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2026 9:18 pm
beachy01 wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2026 9:14 pm

Id like them all to go, but if i had to chose, id keep a few like MJ Williams. So maybe 15 to leave, 4 to stay
I still keep seeing “spine of a decent squad in there” I absolutely do not know what this is based on. 5 coaches tried. We ended worse than we started. Where is this “decent squad in there” actually coming from?
We need to sign the spine! We don’t have one!

Re: Retained list

Posted: Thu May 14, 2026 9:31 pm
by Jonty
Cokey wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2026 9:25 pm
Jonty wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2026 9:18 pm

I still keep seeing “spine of a decent squad in there” I absolutely do not know what this is based on. 5 coaches tried. We ended worse than we started. Where is this “decent squad in there” actually coming from?
We need to sign the spine! We don’t have one!
I agree, but there a lot who are looking at that retained list and thinking they may come good. I just don’t know what they are basing this on. It needs more than a few to turn this around if he is serious about a promotion

Re: Retained list

Posted: Thu May 14, 2026 9:40 pm
by beachy01
Jonty wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2026 9:18 pm
beachy01 wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2026 9:14 pm

Id like them all to go, but if i had to chose, id keep a few like MJ Williams. So maybe 15 to leave, 4 to stay
I still keep seeing “spine of a decent squad in there” I absolutely do not know what this is based on. 5 coaches tried. We ended worse than we started. Where is this “decent squad in there” actually coming from?
Totally agree. I do believe though that 1 or 2 of those players have been completely mis-managed by the managers we had. 1 example being Barky, 1 million percent a winger, nothing else!

Re: Retained list

Posted: Thu May 14, 2026 9:44 pm
by bluessupporter
Don't forget next season we have a manager, and not a head coach and DOF. This could make a helluva difference, coz I think this manager will want to do it HIS way as it should be, and that could mean turning around some of the poorer players from this season.