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barrowaberdeen wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 7:05 am A fan writes
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Suffolk Blue wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:08 am It’s a tricky one. I saw the footage at Kingsmeadow yesterday. Not only was the surface iced but it was artificial making it both a farce and dangerous.

In Mr Barrott’s case, whilst there is no accusation being made by the club, there is an insinuation that for some reason he may not have been as diligent as he should have been and may have been pre-disposed to a postponement.

Very difficult to substantiate although the subsequent complaint from the club is rare enough for it to suggest that’s these thoughts might have entered their thinking also.

I suspect Mr Barrott might have had a relatively difficult conversation with the refs association afterwards but clearly there won’t be any sanctions because frankly there are no objective tests. Even if a game is technically playable, if in the opinion of the ref he believes that temperatures will drop subsequently he can still call the game off based on a forecast.

It’s what you get when you put control in the hands of someone who probably isn’t qualified to make the decision. It also reflects a view that officials have no bias. This of course is rubbish.

Jim wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 10:03 pm I believe Darlington FC travelled to Banbury yesterday and game was called off 30 minutes before kick off! Something close to 400 miles round trip.

barrowaberdeen wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 7:05 am A fan writes
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Big E wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:50 am

Suffolk Blue wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:08 am It’s a tricky one. I saw the footage at Kingsmeadow yesterday. Not only was the surface iced but it was artificial making it both a farce and dangerous.

In Mr Barrott’s case, whilst there is no accusation being made by the club, there is an insinuation that for some reason he may not have been as diligent as he should have been and may have been pre-disposed to a postponement.

Very difficult to substantiate although the subsequent complaint from the club is rare enough for it to suggest that’s these thoughts might have entered their thinking also.

I suspect Mr Barrott might have had a relatively difficult conversation with the refs association afterwards but clearly there won’t be any sanctions because frankly there are no objective tests. Even if a game is technically playable, if in the opinion of the ref he believes that temperatures will drop subsequently he can still call the game off based on a forecast.

It’s what you get when you put control in the hands of someone who probably isn’t qualified to make the decision. It also reflects a view that officials have no bias. This of course is rubbish.

The lack of dialogue around the decision was the annoying bit - His mind was set and there was no persuading him otherwise. He even did several lob the ball in the air and watch the bounce test.. not sure what that was for...
Usually when the ground has been like this, there are usually one or two more reserved members of the staff who are a bit 50/50 on the suitability of the surface. This time I didnt see anyone who thought calling it off was the correct decision.

he even had one of the linesman taking pics on his phone of little patches of the grass.. quite baffling tbh

Big E wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:50 am

Suffolk Blue wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:08 am It’s a tricky one. I saw the footage at Kingsmeadow yesterday. Not only was the surface iced but it was artificial making it both a farce and dangerous.

In Mr Barrott’s case, whilst there is no accusation being made by the club, there is an insinuation that for some reason he may not have been as diligent as he should have been and may have been pre-disposed to a postponement.

Very difficult to substantiate although the subsequent complaint from the club is rare enough for it to suggest that’s these thoughts might have entered their thinking also.

I suspect Mr Barrott might have had a relatively difficult conversation with the refs association afterwards but clearly there won’t be any sanctions because frankly there are no objective tests. Even if a game is technically playable, if in the opinion of the ref he believes that temperatures will drop subsequently he can still call the game off based on a forecast.

It’s what you get when you put control in the hands of someone who probably isn’t qualified to make the decision. It also reflects a view that officials have no bias. This of course is rubbish.

The lack of dialogue around the decision was the annoying bit - His mind was set and there was no persuading him otherwise. He even did several lob the ball in the air and watch the bounce test.. not sure what that was for...
Usually when the ground has been like this, there are usually one or two more reserved members of the staff who are a bit 50/50 on the suitability of the surface. This time I didnt see anyone who thought calling it off was the correct decision.

he even had one of the linesman taking pics on his phone of little patches of the grass.. quite baffling tbh

blue nige wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:30 pm

Big E wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:50 am

The lack of dialogue around the decision was the annoying bit - His mind was set and there was no persuading him otherwise. He even did several lob the ball in the air and watch the bounce test.. not sure what that was for...
Usually when the ground has been like this, there are usually one or two more reserved members of the staff who are a bit 50/50 on the suitability of the surface. This time I didnt see anyone who thought calling it off was the correct decision.

he even had one of the linesman taking pics on his phone of little patches of the grass.. quite baffling tbh

Ian that`s why I mentioned about there being a recognized set protocol so all referees do the same procedure !

Suffolk Blue wrote: ↑Mon Jan 23, 2023 7:46 pm Yes that’s probably the point. Referee has total responsibility for a decision for which he has no accountability Further he gets remunerated for a game that did not take place and has no requirement to account for or justify it to those affected.

Indeed the only persons to which the referee is accountable weren’t present so won’t be in a position to know whether it was correct or not.

You might say that the process is simply not equitable or fair. To which I might query who the hell suggested Football was fair?