Barrow v Carlisle match thread

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Re: Barrow v Carlisle match thread

Post by saltcellar » Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:46 pm

mulholland wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 12:02 am Some having a go at Newby but I thought he was our motm in first half some classy touches and good runs imo. 2nd maybe not so good. We're obviously lacking up front but the basis of a decent team is there. I like Wild he comes across well in the interviews with Adam, who asks him some pertinent questions tbf. But..his substitutions and coaching of set-pieces need working on. He's possibly a bit too stubborn for his own good at times but he's on a learning curve like the rest of us. Top half 👌
I saw several comments about Newby in social media.
I then watched the entire game again last night on Ifollow taking particular notice of how he performed.
He hardly wasted a pass, was very skillful and covered a lot of ground all over the pitch.
His dead ball kicks from corners and free kicks could have been better at times but overall had a decent game.

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Re: Barrow v Carlisle match thread

Post by Jonty » Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:47 pm

Simpson post match on the wind up- just a bit of mischief- no harm done. Talking about a bit of mischief- loved Bluey’s touchline antics yesterday, rolling around kicking his legs, contesting the refs decisions at throw-ins etc. keep up the snide Bluey.

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Re: Barrow v Carlisle match thread

Post by bluedevil » Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:47 pm

"Find it a bit odd the Barra chairman was celebrating Stockport scoring against us in the grimsby directors box on Tuesday night". This came from the CUFC message board.

Apparently this came from Simmo in his interview after the game yesterday, didn't think we were disliked that much from you Southerners.

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Re: Barrow v Carlisle match thread

Post by Suffolk Blue » Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:50 pm

Wintergreen wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 10:54 am Really good battle I thought if rather low on finishing quality with a scrappy goal the difference between the two sides. Carlisle a physically tough team to deal with but we gave as good as we got and kept our discipline. Listened to both Managers on the way home and I don't think either gave a good account of themselves with Simpson being particularly passive-aggresive. And I don't think Wild needs to remind us anymore of where we were this time last year, we know, we experienced it, he didn't.
At last The voice of wisdom and sanity. It wasn’t a terrible game, we weren’t woeful, there wasn’t a great deal between the sides. But where there were differences they all illustrated Carlisles current superiority. Defensively Carlisle were really good especially defending in their own box. They also countered bettter and had more attacking options both on the field and on the bench.

Adam suggested to PW in his post match interview that we ‘huffed and puffed’. To some extent I agree that Carlisle made us look l like that though I actually thought that we were a little better than the description suggests. I do think it may have been the use of that term that prompted the the word ‘battering’ from PW. This was a typical bit of PW emotional reaction. Clearly Carlisle had not been battered but I don’t mind a bit of frustrated emotion just as I didn’t mind the similar tetchy comments from Paul Simpson in response Both managers however strayed into views not based on the facts and made comments about the other camp. That is not clever and should have been avoided.

I don’t think however that attempting to use managers or players exchanging verbal hand bags on each other to encourage ‘rivalry’ between the two sides where to be quite honest there is not much and never has been is the cleverest thing to be doing. I don’t think Radio Cumbria handled the post match analysis particularly well.

‘I’ve never really been one for accusations of bias with regards to RC’s coverage of football in the county and to be honest it’s not an issue of any great importance but when you bring the two parts of the county together in one place for one game you get a much more detailed opportunity to compare the level and depth of analysis within the coverage. Perhaps it comes down to the narrative styles of individuals. But it won’t discourage those on the forum that do sense a more nuanced bias against us.

But a good day out nonetheless and one we could only dream of until recently.

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Re: Barrow v Carlisle match thread

Post by MisterPleasant » Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:51 pm

PW said in his interview with Adam that the ref was to take retrospective action against the Carlisle player who forearmed McClelland. Any more on that?

Overall, I thought it was an entertaining if ultimately frustrating afternoon. Our efforts in the second half deserved an equaliser but - as has been said on countless occasions - we just don't have a commanding presence in the opponent's box; someone who puts the fear of God in them. Hardworking midfield with Neal outstanding but none of them with the ability to make a defence-splitting pass or to ghost up with a goal. Defensively, we looked reasonably solid and, fair play, Warren barely missed a header when he came on.

Post-match on BBC RC it's clear that Wild and Simpson won't be exchanging Christmas cards but it was 'Lummy's' nauseating and patronising guff that had me screaming at the radio as I drove up the A590.
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Re: Barrow v Carlisle match thread

Post by Adam29 » Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:54 pm

bluedevil wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:47 pm "Find it a bit odd the Barra chairman was celebrating Stockport scoring against us in the grimsby directors box on Tuesday night". This came from the CUFC message board.

Apparently this came from Simmo in his interview after the game yesterday, didn't think we were disliked that much from you Southerners.
I can 100% confirm Paul Hornby was not at Grimsby on Tuesday

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Post by Main Stand SeasonTct » Sun Apr 23, 2023 2:13 pm

MisterPleasant wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:51 pm PW said in his interview with Adam that the ref was to take retrospective action against the Carlisle player who forearmed McClelland. Any more on that?


Post-match on BBC RC it's clear that Wild and Simpson won't be exchanging Christmas cards but it was 'Lummy's' nauseating and patronising guff that had me screaming at the radio as I drove up the A590.
I think a panel of 3 look at any referral for retrospective action possibly Monday or Tuesday before we hear anything
Neither manager covered themselves in glory in the after match interviews. Passion and emotions were still running high and when they sit down reflect and look at the game and some of the comments both managers said I’d imagine both would admit they should have handled the interviews better. Simpsons comments about what he was told about the Barrow chairman at Grimsby was very poor and has thankfully been disproved by Adam Johnson who was at Grimsby

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Re: Barrow v Carlisle match thread

Post by Wintergreen » Sun Apr 23, 2023 2:22 pm

Simpson seems to be losing it, in more ways than one.
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Re: Barrow v Carlisle match thread

Post by mall » Sun Apr 23, 2023 2:37 pm

Wintergreen wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 2:22 pm Simpson seems to be losing it, in more ways than one.
Simpson is indeed losing it.
IMO under his false exterior lies a bitter and twisted little man. He clearly engaged in passive-aggressive behavior, particularly towards Pete Wilde in terms of saying that Pete Wilde's team selection for this match showed that he was "desperate" to win this match against Carlisle.
I think it was Simpson who was the 'real' desperate one.

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Re: Barrow v Carlisle match thread

Post by bluedevil » Sun Apr 23, 2023 3:18 pm

Not entirely sure why you think that??
Its been all over these message boards and on social media for weeks, how much the Barrow support wants to "knock Carlisle off their rails". So I'm assuming this is how Wilde thinks as well, and to be fair that's exactly how we would feel if the boot was on the opposite foot.
Not sure how reliable the so-called Barrow Chairman's comments were on Tuesday night, however if I heard that (rightly or wrongly) then I'd be saying the exact same.
And to be fair to Simmo (or Wilde for that matter), if they were not desperate to win the game, then maybe they are both in the wrong job.

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Re: Barrow v Carlisle match thread

Post by HenneysKnee » Sun Apr 23, 2023 3:28 pm

Jonty wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:47 pm Simpson post match on the wind up- just a bit of mischief- no harm done.
You’re wrong on this imho; he really doesn’t like us. Wild has got under his skin, never seen a man so rattled after winning a game. There was no need at all for the crowd comments, a crowd incidentally which was similar to Carlisles average attendance for a lot of recent years….

Hornby not being at Grimsby is absolutely fantastic, Paul Simpsons fairytales

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Post by Main Stand SeasonTct » Sun Apr 23, 2023 3:34 pm

bluedevil wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 3:18 pm Not entirely sure why you think that??
Its been all over these message boards and on social media for weeks, how much the Barrow support wants to "knock Carlisle off their rails". So I'm assuming this is how Wilde thinks as well, and to be fair that's exactly how we would feel if the boot was on the opposite foot.
Not sure how reliable the so-called Barrow Chairman's comments were on Tuesday night, however if I heard that (rightly or wrongly) then I'd be saying the exact same.
And to be fair to Simmo (or Wilde for that matter), if they were not desperate to win the game, then maybe they are both in the wrong job.
Simpson is usually pretty measured in his after match interviews but by his standards and coming from a very experienced manager he was poor after yesterday game. Inferring that Barrow had saved all our best players to play against Carlisle when in fact we made just 2 changes from our last game the same number as Carlisle. Then the jibe about the Barrow chairman that has been totally disproved by BBC Radio Cumbria commentator who was at the Grimsby game.

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Re: Barrow v Carlisle match thread

Post by Suffolk Blue » Sun Apr 23, 2023 4:23 pm

Again a comment made from here-say and incorrect. Perhaps it indicates the amount of pressure that Paul Simpson is feeling at the moment and not really in character with the public image of the man.

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Re: Barrow v Carlisle match thread

Post by Jonty » Sun Apr 23, 2023 4:30 pm

HenneysKnee wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 3:28 pm
Jonty wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:47 pm Simpson post match on the wind up- just a bit of mischief- no harm done.
You’re wrong on this imho; he really doesn’t like us. Wild has got under his skin, never seen a man so rattled after winning a game. There was no need at all for the crowd comments, a crowd incidentally which was similar to Carlisles average attendance for a lot of recent years….

Hornby not being at Grimsby is absolutely fantastic, Paul Simpsons fairytales
Initial post match reaction after winning an important game perhaps. You could see how they celebrated at the end but that wasn’t because they beat Barrow it was because they keep in with a chance of automatic. Big win for them. Best response is to not react.
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Re: Barrow v Carlisle match thread

Post by tictactoe » Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:41 pm

I don’t take much interest in other clubs, i dislike Carlisle through family rivalry and personally hope they don’t get promotion especially so Phillips and Lumsden can go back in their boxes, however, what happened to Carlisle struggling financially, owing money left right and centre? Did they, are they still, someone invested money?
everyone is entitled to their opinion, deal with it

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