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Re: The Play offs
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2023 1:09 pm
by Main Stand SeasonTct
Methuselah wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 12:02 pm
I cannot understand why you would build houses next to a football ground.In future if you wanted to put on pop concerts etc to generate money for the ground,you will get those future residents objecting about the noise.That area has always been industrial.A better use would have been as a car park for match days,because if the club manages to grow the support people will start to object about the number of cars on match days.
As a compromise if we were to build a new stadium in the future the old reservoir sight next to the existing reservoir is surely the best site as it is straight off the road into Barrow and there is plenty of room for expansion and is still roughly in the same area.
Having said all that it will probably remain a pipe dream until a rich benefactor comes along.
Older fans will remember the late Ray Wilkies dream was to build a new stadium on the old reservoir site. Regarding the proposal housing on the old Brady’s yard I can’t understand why anyone would want to live there. Right next to the bus depot in earshot of sirens from fire station and police station and a rat infested reservoir next door. I can’t see folk lining up to buy them
Re: The Play offs
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:39 pm
by Wintergreen
Re New Stadium Think Tank, there is plenty of land west of the Res where the old driving range was. It's right on the A590 with room enough for a vast purpose-built car park. Now if the big-spending BAE/MoD ever wanted to celebrate and commemorate their long-standing relationship with the town that has been good for them over the years and continuing into the forseeable future, well look no further.
Re: The Play offs
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2023 3:42 pm
by mall
Wintergreen wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:39 pm
Re New Stadium Think Tank, there is plenty of land west of the Res where the old driving range was. It's right on the A590 with room enough for a vast purpose-built car park. Now if the big-spending BAE/MoD ever wanted to celebrate and commemorate their long-standing relationship with the town that has been good for them over the years and continuing into the forseeable future, well look no further.
Forget BAE.
All they are interested in now is their shareholders.
Re: The Play offs
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2023 4:43 pm
by holkerboy
Methuselah wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 12:02 pm
In future if you wanted to put on pop concerts etc to generate money for the ground,you will get those future residents objecting about the noise.
This happened at Craven Park and the residents objections were overruled, but the concert had to finish by 11.00 pm.
Re: The Play offs
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:08 pm
by The Green Bluebird
How about a joint venture with a budget hotel company to develop the Steelworks end as at Bloomfield Road, Blackpool. Income from letting rooms to contractors through the week (Sunday to Thursday) and no hotel bills to pay for players on matchday weekends and spare rooms used for corporate??
Re: The Play offs
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:17 pm
by tommy2thumbs
Main Stand SeasonTct wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 1:09 pm
I can’t understand why anyone would want to live there. Right next to the bus depot in earshot of sirens from fire station and police station and a rat infested reservoir next door. I can’t see folk lining up to buy them
You ever worked in sales?
Re: The Play offs
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:33 pm
by Lancaster Branch
The Green Bluebird wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:08 pm
How about a joint venture with a budget hotel company to develop the Steelworks end as at Bloomfield Road, Blackpool. Income from letting rooms to contractors through the week (Sunday to Thursday) and no hotel bills to pay for players on matchday weekends and spare rooms used for corporate??
Tried that years ago, the Council said they wouldn’t grant planning permission for it.
Times have changed, of course.
Also once upon a time Orsted looked at funding a rebuild of the Popular Side to include offices and worker accommodation. Can’t recall why that one failed.
Re: The Play offs
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:34 pm
by Hadrian
Methuselah wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 12:02 pm
I cannot understand why you would build houses next to a football ground.In future if you wanted to put on pop concerts etc to generate money for the ground,you will get those future residents objecting about the noise.That area has always been industrial.A better use would have been as a car park for match days,because if the club manages to grow the support people will start to object about the number of cars on match days.
As a compromise if we were to build a new stadium in the future the old reservoir sight next to the existing reservoir is surely the best site as it is straight off the road into Barrow and there is plenty of room for expansion and is still roughly in the same area.
Having said all that it will probably remain a pipe dream until a rich benefactor comes along.
What do you suppose the site would have cost to buy, remediate and surface appropriately to create a car park?
If it took 400 cars, say at £5 each, every home game from customers who would be happy to be in a queue up to 400 cars long to exit on to Wilkie Road into the post-match traffic, how long do you think it would take to recoup the initial outlay?
As for rich benefactors, our previous experiences suggest it would take an extremely rich benefactor, winning the Lotto wouldn't cut the mustard. (Save your money, therefore, for the Trust Lottery.)
Re: The Play offs
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:34 pm
by Hadrian
Lancaster Branch wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:33 pm
Also once upon a time Orsted looked at funding a rebuild of the Popular Side to include offices and worker accommodation. Can’t recall why that one failed.
Access rights on non-match days, perhaps??
Re: The Play offs
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:35 pm
by Lancaster Branch
Hadrian wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:34 pm
Lancaster Branch wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:33 pm
Also once upon a time Orsted looked at funding a rebuild of the Popular Side to include offices and worker accommodation. Can’t recall why that one failed.
Access rights on non-match days, perhaps??
How do you mean, access rights?
Re: The Play offs
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:36 pm
by Hadrian
mall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 3:42 pm
Forget BAE.
All they are interested in now is their shareholders.
When has a plc not been interested in their shareholders as the main priority?
Re: The Play offs
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:38 pm
by Hadrian
The ability to freely access the area behind the Ray Wilkie Stand on non-match days.
(I don't know the answer, by the way. I did ask for the questions, along with some others, to be asked at the recent Fans' Forum. Not living locally, I was unable to attend that evening and saw no sign of the questions having been asked in the Twitter 'live' summary.)
Re: The Play offs
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:45 pm
by Lancaster Branch
Ah right… no, that wasn’t an issue. I’m talking about 10 years ago, not recently. It may have been proposed again, I don’t know.
Re: The Play offs
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:07 pm
by Jeeby
Did they not once upon a time look at proposals of a joint Football/Rugby stadium at the Marina village area, perhaps where they are now clearing the land for housing ?
Re: The Play offs
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:09 pm
by Lancaster Branch
Jeeby wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:07 pm
Did they not once upon a time look at proposals of a joint Football/Rugby stadium at the Marina village area, perhaps where they are now clearing the land for housing ?
Yes.