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Can anyone help me with the complete 1990 lineups for both teams please, numbers too if you can. Many thanks!

Sent photo to yr Twitter account of prog

Cheers v-muchly.

well that was sorted quickly.

So......???

Mcdonnel
Higgins
Gordon
Skivington
?????
Doc
Lowe
Proctor
Ferris
Cowps
??????

Shit without cheating and getting the dvd out i cant remember

Chilton ?
Burgess ?
Capstick ?
Copeland ?

As for Leek

er...

And this is without cheating and i was only ten. I should know more.

Farrell and Chilton are your missing players Daz.

I think the bench may have been Messenger, Burgess and Copeland?

Billy Gilmour was on the bench.

Bloody hell Farrell, at least i didnt cheat mate

Regarding Gilmour it was him with the diving header Colne away wasnt it?

I remember looking at them two at 9/10 years old thinking they were old men!!

nice to relive memories like this.

I remember i was in Florida when Euro 96 was on and me and my dad bumped into Lee Copland in a bar, think he was with Slater (Paul?) otherwise known as Slats?

Think my dad worked with one (or both) of them.

Thinking about it i went out on the [SwearFilter] with "Slats" in Bowness years ago!!! Is that the same lad who played for Holker ?

ruins wrote:Thinking about it i went out on the [SwearFilter] with "Slats" in Bowness years ago!!! Is that the same lad who played for Holker ?

That's him.

That was some team eh? As for the substitutes...certainly Billy Gilmour and Ian Burgess were on the bench, along with Lee Copeland, but I'm not sure Gary Messenger made the squad. Certainly Stuart Todhunter and Jim Capstick missed out, and I think "Messer" was also unlucky, although I stand to be corrected. All three of them travelled with the squad though. I liked Messer - he was a very useful footballer (for a Marra...) and could play centre forward or centre back. Could look after himself. If only we had someone like Sir Ray in charge now - someone who could make a phone call and magic up a good footballer from the north east almost at will. Not the greatest tactician but had a "way" with players which made them play above themselves for him. Yeah, I know...times have changed etc....

Moonwatcher wrote:That was some team eh? As for the substitutes...certainly Billy Gilmour and Ian Burgess were on the bench, along with Lee Copeland, but I'm not sure Gary Messenger made the squad. Certainly Stuart Todhunter and Jim Capstick missed out, and I think "Messer" was also unlucky, although I stand to be corrected. All three of them travelled with the squad though. I liked Messer - he was a very useful footballer (for a Marra...) and could play centre forward or centre back. Could look after himself. If only we had someone like Sir Ray in charge now - someone who could make a phone call and magic up a good footballer from the north east almost at will. Not the greatest tactician but had a "way" with players which made them play above themselves for him. Yeah, I know...times have changed etc....

Well maybe somethings changed mate but is it times? Or just us as a club and town? Obviously players wanted to play for Barrow then, we were a sleeping giant my old fella used to tell me. Surely the players are out there but we need to get the man to do it?

Thats another thread i guess.

Where was Stuart Todhunter(sp?) at this point? Am i too early?

One thing about the Wilkie years that sometimes gets overlooked was just how many local players he used in his teams. Yes, he did have a conveyor belt of top quality Geordie players (Wheatley, Carroll, Higgins, Lowe, Harrison, Hulse, Ferris, Vincent, to name but a few) but the nucleus of most of Wilkie's teams was either Barrow-based or at least Cumbria based. Take the Trophy winning squad: McDonnell (Kendal) Chilton (West Cumbria) Gordon (Barrow) Skivington (Barrow) Gilmour (West Cumbria) Proctor (Barrow) Cowperthwaite (Flookburgh) Doherty (Barrow) Burgess (Barrow) Copeland (Barrow). Peripheral players around the same time - Messenger, Todhunter (both West Cumbria), Capstick (Barrow). Wilkie also gave plenty of game time to the likes of Colin Woodburn and Stuart Mason (both Ulverston) as well as goalkeeper Dave Knowles, who was also a Furness-based lad. I'm pretty sure there were others I haven't mentioned. Yes, Barrow won the FA Trophy at Wembley and competed in the Conference with mostly local players....an interesting idea. Could that be done nowadays ....? Probably not.

Moonwatcher wrote:One thing about the Wilkie years that sometimes gets overlooked was just how many local players he used in his teams. Yes, he did have a conveyor belt of top quality Geordie players (Wheatley, Carroll, Higgins, Lowe, Harrison, Hulse, Ferris, Vincent, to name but a few) but the nucleus of most of Wilkie's teams was either Barrow-based or at least Cumbria based. Take the Trophy winning squad: McDonnell (Kendal) Chilton (West Cumbria) Gordon (Barrow) Skivington (Barrow) Gilmour (West Cumbria) Proctor (Barrow) Cowperthwaite (Flookburgh) Doherty (Barrow) Burgess (Barrow) Copeland (Barrow). Peripheral players around the same time - Messenger, Todhunter (both West Cumbria), Capstick (Barrow). Wilkie also gave plenty of game time to the likes of Colin Woodburn and Stuart Mason (both Ulverston) as well as goalkeeper Dave Knowles, who was also a Furness-based lad. I'm pretty sure there were others I haven't mentioned. Yes, Barrow won the FA Trophy at Wembley and competed in the Conference with mostly local players....an interesting idea. Could that be done nowadays ....? Probably not.

Good point

Was Dave Knowles a very tall lad? Light hair, but not a lot of it? In the nicest possible way if he is on this forum

Who were the coaching staff also? Mick Clousdale was involved wasnt he?

ruins wrote:

Moonwatcher wrote:One thing about the Wilkie years that sometimes gets overlooked was just how many local players he used in his teams. Yes, he did have a conveyor belt of top quality Geordie players (Wheatley, Carroll, Higgins, Lowe, Harrison, Hulse, Ferris, Vincent, to name but a few) but the nucleus of most of Wilkie's teams was either Barrow-based or at least Cumbria based. Take the Trophy winning squad: McDonnell (Kendal) Chilton (West Cumbria) Gordon (Barrow) Skivington (Barrow) Gilmour (West Cumbria) Proctor (Barrow) Cowperthwaite (Flookburgh) Doherty (Barrow) Burgess (Barrow) Copeland (Barrow). Peripheral players around the same time - Messenger, Todhunter (both West Cumbria), Capstick (Barrow). Wilkie also gave plenty of game time to the likes of Colin Woodburn and Stuart Mason (both Ulverston) as well as goalkeeper Dave Knowles, who was also a Furness-based lad. I'm pretty sure there were others I haven't mentioned. Yes, Barrow won the FA Trophy at Wembley and competed in the Conference with mostly local players....an interesting idea. Could that be done nowadays ....? Probably not.

Good point

Was Dave Knowles a very tall lad? Light hair, but not a lot of it? In the nicest possible way if he is on this forum

Yes, that sounds like him.