Decisions being made

[Suffolk Blue]

Its far more fun watching proceedings in the League above at the moment. Stevenage were up on a charge today that could have seen them deducted points but their brief Mr Diamond-Geezer got them off.

Macc as noted above were deducted 7 points for fielding an ineligible player in November and failing to pay wages in March. They also picked up three suspended points deduction for previous misdemeanours plus were given another suspended two points for the current offence. Application of those two suspended points would still have them 1 point above Stevenage, which the chaps on the Macc forum seem to think will see them safe as they are convinced only one team will be relegated if any.

However, in separate news it is now believed that the EFL Disciplinary Committee will move to apply an immediate three point deduction for every instance of non-payment wages on time from any one of its clubs. Macclesfield have failed to do so on 4 occasions this season but were able to do so for April presumably from the funds they received from the Premier League. If the EFL season does extend beyond May, the Macc Lads may yet have cause to worry.

Far from being resolved or voided, League 2 seems to be going into reverse. Short of any football being played, its definitely the best gig out there at the moment.

[Jas79]

Its far more fun watching proceedings in the League above at the moment. Stevenage were up on a charge today that could have seen them deducted points but their brief Mr Diamond-Geezer got them off.

Worth noting that Oldham allegedly made complaints against Stevenage, resulting in the charge, at a time when they were also facing a possible points deduction. They are managed by Dino Maamria, sacked by Stevenage earlier this season.

[Pedro]

Its far more fun watching proceedings in the League above at the moment. Stevenage were up on a charge today that could have seen them deducted points but their brief Mr Diamond-Geezer got them off.

Worth noting that Oldham allegedly made complaints against Stevenage, resulting in the charge, at a time when they were also facing a possible points deduction. They are managed by Dino Maamria, sacked by Stevenage earlier this season.

We smashed and grabbed against them in the FA Trophy Final

[chipmunx]

Taken from the OneFootballForum League 2 Forum;-

Matt Slater, a journalist for the Athletic, has published a story this morning saying that the League 1 and League 2 seasons are set to be abandoned within the next few days. For now, the Premier League and Championship will continue. But I assume the National League are also about to act themselves. A vote for L1 and L2 clubs will take place to decide which system will be used, but a weighted PPG looks set to be the method chosen.

https://theathletic.com/1800891/2020/05 ... -coventry/ Those of you who have a sub with the Athletic can read up on things there.

In short

- Leagues more than likely to be decided on a weighted PPG system which evens out home and away games remaining as fair as they possibly can. Playoffs are to be cancelled for this year and this year only.
- Coventry, Rotherham and Oxford (current Top 3 in order) will be promoted to the Championship (The fume from Andy Pilley, DMAC, Portsmouth and Sunderland fans on Twitter is going to be quite something)
- Tranmere, Southend and Bolton to be relegated to League Two (I think Palios will accept relegation but watch Ron Martin try and do a lawsuit to try and keep Southend in League One despite them being dead and buried)
- Swindon to be Champions of League Two, Crewe 2nd, Plymouth 3rd but Cheltenham to leapfrog Exeter into 4th on PPG which means they'll be promoted and the Grecians will unfortunately miss out.
- Stevenage to finish bottom of League Two and are very likely to be relegated to the National League unless the National League null and void their season. If Stevenage go down, I believe Phil Wallace will accept it even though Macclesfield have just had a signfiicant points deduction themselves.
- Null and void in the PL and EFL appears to have receded significantly due to it favouring the worst performing sides coupled with the legal and financial risks involved (The leagues may be liable to pay Sky back significant monies owed as per the agreement) and it's not an option that will be brought to the table.

With regard to non league. This isn't mentioned in the article, but at a guess...

- If NL isn't null and voided, it looks likely that Barrow and Harrogate will be promoted to League Two next season. Again, Notts County fans will be seething at this, but they'll be fighting a losing battle if the EFL has decided to go down the PPG route with the NL wishing to follow it.
- Its uncertain what will happen in the context of relegation but it's wise to assume that, should the season not be null and voided, Chorley, Fylde and Maidenhead will be relegated with Wealdstone, Kings Lynn, York and Havant and Waterlooville promoted. This would leave the NLS and NLN with 22 and 21 clubs respectively, which means they may promote each top placed side and more than likely the best 2nd placed team from Step 3 after all to make up the numbers for their impending expansion to 24 teams each.

Interesting to see what will lie ahead as a result of this when it's formally announced. But Slater, a Southend fan himself, is a very credible source and I do believe that this will occur next week...

[Suffolk Blue]

Simple, logical and beautiful. Therefore cant possibly happen.

[russell_anderson]

Well this is exactly what I expected would happen so I hope it turns out to be true. Nothing would be completely satisfactory but this has always seemed the fairest and most obvious method to me.

[Moribund]

Simple, logical and beautiful. Therefore cant possibly happen.

EFL have leaked this for a reason - to test the waters. Unless a monumental fuss is kicked up today, then it will go ahead like this.

[Tommylad]

Does "weighted " ppg still keep us top?

[chipmunx]

Does "weighted " ppg still keep us top?

yep - just drops Notts from 3rd to 5th

[barrowfan]

Simple, logical and beautiful. Therefore cant possibly happen.

EFL have leaked this for a reason - to test the waters. Unless a monumental fuss is kicked up today, then it will go ahead like this.

It should go ahead anyway. They are the governing body of the league. They should grow a pair!

[Hitthebar22]

Leaked documents or information often tends to have some veracity or accuracy. Again we can only speculate what will happen, but objectively what is suggested makes sense; subjectively it is good for us, but not for e.g Notts County and other teams who will miss out on promotion or relegation. Legal action is a waste of time. It is just tub thumping because the legal system, always slow, has got much slower, the cost would be prohibitively expensive, and it would be many months, even years, before any action would be heard. Any club trying get promoted or stop being relegated would likely lose their action because of the exceptional circumstances In any event. The system as proposed would work, and above everything it would be just reward for the excellence of our season. (No bias at all in that final sentence..)

[Suffolk Blue]

Definitely a line of dominos began to stack up.

So the two things that need to happen (next week) would be : Firstly Premier League to confirm that it will restart and complete by certain dates and how its going to do that; secondly EFL to concede that Championship only will go with Premier League (to preserve its automatic promotion rights). L1 and L2 seasons to be wound up on weighted PPG with promotion and relegation. NL would then by its own admission be pretty duty bound to follow precedent.

That still leaves some room for jiggery-pokery and toy throwing particularly around the issue of relegation. But null and void and play-offs would both seem to have virtually disappeared.

As this solution could effectively relegate Fylde, then be prepared for more explosive revelations in Mondays Lytham Gazette.

[Tommylad]

Does "weighted " ppg still keep us top?

yep - just drops Notts from 3rd to 5th

Excellent

[Jim]

I don't expect it to be over even when a decision is finally made. There will then be a further period of uncertainty while clubs consider legal challenges. It will only be over when a Barrow team kick a ball in a league match again - wherever and whenever that may be!

[HenneysKnee]

This is great news if it’s true, we’d surely be sorted if this is actually what League One and Two do