The odds of any event, be it football, racing or any other event are affected by the punters placing their money on the runners on how they think things will pan out, the odds fluctuate to protect the bookies, they do not affect the outcomeChris Benoit wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:33 pm Might be a bit of drifting on the odds soon as there seems to be an impression that Bolton are either reluctant to pay or can't. Not saying he isn't going but I get the impression that they're trying to knock us down quite a lot. We need to stand our ground regardless.
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We're all supporters on here. Let's leave the negative comments to the away fans
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Another post confirming your identity. Cheap that.Boltonfanbrian wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:17 pmYou know nothing. stick to murdering people. evatt unveiled by tomorrow.Chris Benoit wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:33 pm Might be a bit of drifting on the odds soon as there seems to be an impression that Bolton are either reluctant to pay or can't. Not saying he isn't going but I get the impression that they're trying to knock us down quite a lot. We need to stand our ground regardless.
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It seems to all been driven by rumours. I think will see IE's price drop down now they have a new name in that hat. Ian Evatt has nothing to lose by talking to Bolton but ultimately my hunch is he'll stay. There's just too many risks in moving there at this time and more offers are bound to eventually come in from L1 or higher. 18/1 for Moore can't be bad value.Hadrian wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:57 pmRemember how far off the betting market was with the last few appointments at Barrow?Electricblues wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:29 pm
Darren Moore doesn't feature anywhere in the betting market so you have to wonder just how far off mark the betting market is at the moment.
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Put it this way, if you finish above us you'll be gettin promoted, and that ain't gonna happen.Sefton Aubergine wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:43 pm The only thing that I'm certain about viewing this thread is the club I'll take the most delight finishing above.
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Bolton are a massive name in English football, no doubt about that. However, the fact that they are in League 2 demonstrates that they have massive problems too. Those are the facts - not opinions, wind-ups, rumours or conjecture. Avoid.
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Calm down, who said I was? I'm talking about the disruption caused by Bolton as a club... In my opinion they have clearly approached/spoken to our manager.Hadrian wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:55 pmFor goodness sake, don't judge another club because a couple of new accounts - which may have no link to supporters at said club - turn up here trying to wind-up folk!Sefton Aubergine wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:43 pm The only thing that I'm certain about viewing this thread is the club I'll take the most delight finishing above.
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Which they are quite entitled to doSefton Aubergine wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 5:38 pmCalm down, who said I was? I'm talking about the disruption caused by Bolton as a club... In my opinion they have clearly approched/spoken to our manager.
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Depends when... I doubt it was an official approach.
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"they" why not use the word "we"?Johnno wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 5:40 pmWhich they are quite entitled to doSefton Aubergine wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 5:38 pm
Calm down, who said I was? I'm talking about the disruption caused by Bolton as a club... In my opinion they have clearly approched/spoken to our manager.
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people need to learn from the betting odds is they mean naff all, look in the past at what odds he’s been for Grimsby job ect and he’s still here. One thing is worrying and it’s been noted is the cancelled interview a couple days ago, could be as a result of a couple different things but to me doesn’t look good. If he goes he goes he’s done the unthinkable for us but if he does leave the clubs in the right place to find the right person. Hopefully has the same assets as him. These Bolton fans on here sound like a bunch of school kids trying to get bites, pathetic
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I.m sorry, but you don't need to be any sort of Financial expert to keep up to speed with what's gone on since the FV.s consortium came together starting with the one man with money involved in it bailing out when he found out the others didn't have the financial wherewithal that they'd led him to believe.Johnno wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 2:20 pmGood to know that fans of other clubs have seen FVs books and are experts on our finances, they are not baulking at the compo in any way shape or form, so all these comments on our finances are absolutely ridiculous.jaycarter wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 2:10 pm I find this crazy he would be far better off in the long run if he stayed with Barrow for next season, get the team doing what they did in the National league then he could get an even better club, Bolton will struggle financially in 20/21, also he has a wife that has a very good job so he is not exactly going to be struggling with cash, disappointed with what's going on.
Then we have the remaining members of the consortium pulling every string they could to reduce the amount of cash they'd have to put up. blackmailing the administrators by stating that if they didn't get the hotel they wouldn't buy the club [ and that should be your first clue to where we are today in that the hotel or at least the profits from it that it had been capable of delivering in the recent past ] was a major part of their ongoing business plan.
When the members of FV put themselves forward to the FL for what used to be called the fit and proper person test I have it on good authority that they were only approved because quite simply they were the only game in town and it was them or lose another of the founding members which the league had been bending over backwards to do in the light of the shambles they.d created at Bury.
So that brings us to where were today where the facts are even before the shutdown the hotel was achieving nowhere near the occupancy, rack rates or indeed profits that were needed to provide the money for the football club that was shown in FV.s business plan and whats a fact whether some of the Horwich fans who've shown up on here like it or not the hotel has been shut for the last 3 months so not only has it not been producing that money for the football club what it has been doing is creating a black hole that FV.s are having to fill this isn't something out of the ordinary it's something that all hospitality businesses are having to deal with.
Now i.m not saying that they're incapable of raising the 250k but you can be sure that if they do it won't be coming out of the club's coffers and my understanding is that if the money is injected by a third party it would either have to be completely written off as an "investment" or injected as a loan which may well go against the financial terms that they are currently operating under.
I.d be pretty sure that when they included IE on their not very short list they weren't aware of the level of compensation required or the determination of the Barrow board to stick to every last word of it and were hoping they could get it down to something like 20 grand which they could recover by just reducing wage budgets slightly but a quarter of a million quid is another matter whatsoever and it's not as if there aren't other suitable candidates like Clough who wouldn't cost them a penny. So now things have been made clear for them they have a simple decision to make is Ian Evatt worth quarter of a million quid more than somebody they could get for nothing and then you have to ask yourself will they have satisfied the needs aims and aspirations of someone who knows where he stands at Barrow and that his time will undoubtedly come again at a club in much more settled circumstances financially.
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"One thing is worrying and it’s been noted is the cancelled interview a couple days ago",Barradise wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 6:03 pm people need to learn from the betting odds is they mean naff all, look in the past at what odds he’s been for Grimsby job ect and he’s still here. One thing is worrying and it’s been noted is the cancelled interview a couple days ago, could be as a result of a couple different things but to me doesn’t look good. If he goes he goes he’s done the unthinkable for us but if he does leave the clubs in the right place to find the right person. Hopefully has the same assets as him. These Bolton fans on here sound like a bunch of school kids trying to get bites, pathetic
what interview is that then ??
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Bolton asked Barrow for permission to talk to Evatt. I would call that an official approach.Sefton Aubergine wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 5:50 pm Depends when... I doubt it was an official approach.
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"One thing is worrying and it’s been noted is the cancelled interview a couple days ago",
what interview is that then ??
Was meant to be live on the radio I heard and swapped it for a pre recorded interview, no questions regarding future was asked is that wrong?
what interview is that then ??
Was meant to be live on the radio I heard and swapped it for a pre recorded interview, no questions regarding future was asked is that wrong?
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Bit like Boris Johnson and Andrew Neil then.Barradise wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 6:46 pm "One thing is worrying and it’s been noted is the cancelled interview a couple days ago",
what interview is that then ??
Was meant to be live on the radio I heard and swapped it for a pre recorded interview, no questions regarding future was asked is that wrong?
Suppose it could be awkward if he has to give a straight answer.
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