Comparing this season with 1971-72

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Comparing this season with 1971-72

Post by xerxes » Sat May 08, 2021 7:35 pm

Remarkably, we have exactly the same playing record this season as in our last season in Division 4 - Won 13, Drew 11, Lost 22.

Our home and away records are also similar -
1971/72 - Home W8 D8 L7 Away W5 D3 L15 - 22nd place
2020/21 - Home W7 D8 L8 Away W6 D3 L14 - 21st place

Our goal difference this season was much better - 53-59 as opposed to 40-71 in 1972. We had some big defeats that season - as well as the 7-1 loss at Exeter on the final day we also lost 7-0 at Peterborough, 3-0 and 4-0 to Brentford, 4-0 at Bury, and most significantly 4-0 at home to fellow strugglers Darlington in our 43rd game, a result which arguably was more to blame for our demise that the final day defeat at Exeter. This season most defeats have been by a single goal, with none more than a 2 goal margin.

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Re: Comparing this season with 1971-72

Post by Wintergreen » Sat May 08, 2021 7:58 pm

Well l never, what are the odds of that. And didn’t we finish fourth bottom after the last game at Exeter?
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Re: Comparing this season with 1971-72

Post by xerxes » Sat May 08, 2021 8:31 pm

Wintergreen wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 7:58 pm Well l never, what are the odds of that. And didn’t we finish fourth bottom after the last game at Exeter?
Northampton finished fourth bottom, above us on goal average.

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Re: Comparing this season with 1971-72

Post by Exeter bluebird » Sat May 08, 2021 10:59 pm

This season is Barrow's highest league since 1970 I believe

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Re: Comparing this season with 1971-72

Post by Suffolk Blue » Sat May 08, 2021 11:30 pm

You want another coincidental factor? In 71/72 the shape of our season was similar to this season. Our early and mid season form was terrible and we improved only when a caretaker manager (Jack Crompton) took over the reins. Unfortunately we fell at the final couple of hurdles in 72 and that ultimately cost us our place in the League.

Other comparisons are less coincidental however. The team in 72 were a collection of gnarled old pros and promising youths. The club was utterly skint and would have looked at this seasons budget with shock and awe. Lets not get too sentimental about this. In 71/72 we were a dying shambles of a club. In 20/21 we just f**ked things up.

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Post by Exeter bluebird » Sun May 09, 2021 6:22 am

Exeter bluebird wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 10:59 pm This season is Barrow's highest league finish since 1970 I believe

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Re: Comparing this season with 1971-72

Post by Pedro » Sun May 09, 2021 6:58 pm

Suffolk Blue wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 11:30 pm You want another coincidental factor? In 71/72 the shape of our season was similar to this season. Our early and mid season form was terrible and we improved only when a caretaker manager (Jack Crompton) took over the reins. Unfortunately we fell at the final couple of hurdles in 72 and that ultimately cost us our place in the League.

Other comparisons are less coincidental however. The team in 72 were a collection of gnarled old pros and promising youths. The club was utterly skint and would have looked at this seasons budget with shock and awe. Lets not get too sentimental about this. In 71/72 we were a dying shambles of a club. In 20/21 we just f**ked things up.
I think we tried to borrow a goal keeper for reasons people will know.
The League refused stating it was after the deadline then letting Everton sign a back up goalkeeper ,nothing changes!
If I remember right, if not someone correct me I think Bobby Knox played in goal a couple of times ?

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Re: Comparing this season with 1971-72

Post by MisterPleasant » Sun May 09, 2021 7:24 pm

Pedro wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 6:58 pm
Suffolk Blue wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 11:30 pm You want another coincidental factor? In 71/72 the shape of our season was similar to this season. Our early and mid season form was terrible and we improved only when a caretaker manager (Jack Crompton) took over the reins. Unfortunately we fell at the final couple of hurdles in 72 and that ultimately cost us our place in the League.

Other comparisons are less coincidental however. The team in 72 were a collection of gnarled old pros and promising youths. The club was utterly skint and would have looked at this seasons budget with shock and awe. Lets not get too sentimental about this. In 71/72 we were a dying shambles of a club. In 20/21 we just f**ked things up.
I think we tried to borrow a goal keeper for reasons people will know.
The League refused stating it was after the deadline then letting Everton sign a back up goalkeeper ,nothing changes!
If I remember right, if not someone correct me I think Bobby Knox played in goal a couple of times ?
Yup, looking at the programme xerxes posted for the final Exeter game and B. Knox was listed as the 'keeper although, in the end, he was replaced by Thomson. But he must have been used in that role.
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Re: Comparing this season with 1971-72

Post by behind the goals » Sun May 09, 2021 7:41 pm

Bobby Knox played in goals v Cambridge(a) April 15th lost 1-0 & Darlington(h) April 17th lost 4-0

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Post by SKIPPER » Sun May 09, 2021 9:29 pm

Bobby 'opportunity' Knox was no stranger to the goalkeeping position. In the days of schoolboy representative games he was Barrow Boys goalkeeper in the mid 60's. But to be fair he was thrown in at the deep end long after any competitive experience in that position. Together with everything else it rankled that we were not allowed an emergency loan 'keeper especially when one was granted to a First division club around the same time ( Can't remember who but it was because their remaining games did not involve teams at the top or bottom of the table. Had we picked up just one point from them two games history would have been re-written.

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Re: Comparing this season with 1971-72

Post by Pedro » Sun May 09, 2021 10:37 pm

SKIPPER wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 9:29 pm Bobby 'opportunity' Knox was no stranger to the goalkeeping position. In the days of schoolboy representative games he was Barrow Boys goalkeeper in the mid 60's. But to be fair he was thrown in at the deep end long after any competitive experience in that position. Together with everything else it rankled that we were not allowed an emergency loan 'keeper especially when one was granted to a First division club around the same time ( Can't remember who but it was because their remaining games did not involve teams at the top or bottom of the table. Had we picked up just one point from them two games history would have been re-written.
Think it was Everton if I remember right, Harry Catterick was the Manager cannot remember who they borrowed.
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Re: Comparing this season with 1971-72

Post by xerxes » Mon May 10, 2021 9:03 am

SKIPPER wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 9:29 pm Bobby 'opportunity' Knox was no stranger to the goalkeeping position.
Indeed. Against Doncaster during the Christmas period in 1965-66 he came on as substitute when our goalkeeper was injured. He then saved a penalty, reputedly the first time a substitute had ever done so.

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Re: Comparing this season with 1971-72

Post by Shaun » Mon May 10, 2021 2:01 pm

xerxes wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 7:35 pm Remarkably, we have exactly the same playing record this season as in our last season in Division 4 - Won 13, Drew 11, Lost 22.

Our home and away records are also similar -
1971/72 - Home W8 D8 L7 Away W5 D3 L15 - 22nd place
2020/21 - Home W7 D8 L8 Away W6 D3 L14 - 21st place

Our goal difference this season was much better - 53-59 as opposed to 40-71 in 1972. We had some big defeats that season - as well as the 7-1 loss at Exeter on the final day we also lost 7-0 at Peterborough, 3-0 and 4-0 to Brentford, 4-0 at Bury, and most significantly 4-0 at home to fellow strugglers Darlington in our 43rd game, a result which arguably was more to blame for our demise that the final day defeat at Exeter. This season most defeats have been by a single goal, with none more than a 2 goal margin.
Thanks. Great info.
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