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Post by Jonty » Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:19 pm

Well possibly, if we reinstated the missing steps back to pitch-side but you probably need three steps of terrace steps space to make one row of seats. Rather they reinstated these as terracing and make the pop side back to what it was before the speedway.
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Post by Falstaff » Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:37 pm

A long time ago on this forum I suggested the possibility of turning the pitch 90 degrees and building a stand in front of the crossbar with the existing stand becoming an end. Obviously this would mean demolishing the popular side. I've no idea whether the pitch would 'fit' that way especially when you add another end terrace, without encroaching on the pond behind but I wonder if it might be a cheaper and better solution or at least worth considering?

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Post by Desmond2-2 » Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:48 pm

Falstaff wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:37 pm A long time ago on this forum I suggested the possibility of turning the pitch 90 degrees and building a stand in front of the crossbar with the existing stand becoming an end. Obviously this would mean demolishing the popular side. I've no idea whether the pitch would 'fit' that way especially when you add another end terrace, without encroaching on the pond behind but I wonder if it might be a cheaper and better solution or at least worth considering?
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Post by bamber678 » Fri Oct 15, 2021 6:29 am

Falstaff wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:37 pm A long time ago on this forum I suggested the possibility of turning the pitch 90 degrees and building a stand in front of the crossbar with the existing stand becoming an end. Obviously this would mean demolishing the popular side. I've no idea whether the pitch would 'fit' that way especially when you add another end terrace, without encroaching on the pond behind but I wonder if it might be a cheaper and better solution or at least worth considering?
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Post by John_Bucks » Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:23 am

The cheaper solution is to turn the pitch 180 degrees and then the crossbar is still a problem but maybe there'd be money left over to do it ;)
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Post by Big E » Fri Oct 15, 2021 4:43 pm

Would it be possible to build over part of the fan zone creating a concourse under the stand?

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Post by boyliegladbach » Fri Oct 15, 2021 5:19 pm

Big E wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 4:43 pm Would it be possible to build over part of the fan zone creating a concourse under the stand?
I wondered that, it'd be steep though and then cross bar would get in way . I think, but no expert.

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Post by Back of the net » Fri Oct 15, 2021 5:47 pm

boyliegladbach wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 5:19 pm
Big E wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 4:43 pm Would it be possible to build over part of the fan zone creating a concourse under the stand?
I wondered that, it'd be steep though and then cross bar would get in way . I think, but no expert.
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Post by NORTHERNSOUL » Sat Oct 16, 2021 9:07 pm

Bombadel wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:16 am Taken from the CEO update

https://www.barrowafc.com/news/2021/oct ... upporters/

“We do intend, subject to final design and cost analysis, to seat the Cross Bar End. This seems a relatively simple way to install circa 250 seats while also reopening this currently ‘closed’ end of the ground and allowing some supporters back to their spiritual home behind that goal.

We don’t intend, on current information, to extend the existing Main Stand. The reason for this is that, if we join on to the existing structure, we further tie ourselves to it long term. While there are no plans in place to demolish the Main Stand, I think most supporters would agree that when we visit other grounds who have successfully redeveloped (Accrington being the most popular example, but there are others) a stand like ours doesn’t feel like it has a role in the long-term future of the Club.“
Pretty clear from that its finance thats the issue

Doesn't seem to make much sense to me and pretty sure they need a lot more than the 250 seats mentioned

A solution that was suggested to me was that they take 2 or 3 metres off the pitch which would give enough room to put down a pad big enough to accommodate a six-row prefabricated stand from the same company that did the HS end roof and who did the new stand at Accrington obviously access to the pitch would still be needed so maybe it could be modified in the same way the one at Torquay was.

Wonder if they've spoken to Barnet as they are planning to replace the cover they still have at one end of their ground which by coincidence is where Torquay got theirs from as it's actually the twin brother of the one that's about to become available from the Hive.

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Post by NORTHERNSOUL » Sat Oct 16, 2021 9:13 pm

mickycarrol wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:58 pm
Steeley wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:02 pm It’s an obvious solution but how good would a view from a seat at the xbar end be? Would be pretty low down wouldn’t it.

Never thought of the main stand as an issue but guess thinking long term if it was removed we could put a longer shallower stand in with facilities underneath/behind.
Was impressed with the stand at Accy with the facilities behind.

Hate to say it but the main stand at Fylde is decent and has top notch boozer and facilities built in! Not sure how many seats it has mind may be a little low on numbers for us who made the EFL deadline they set themselves!
And do you know what its reputed to have cost ?

They are currently completing the fourth side of the ground with a structure that this time appears to be being built at a pretty reasonable cost.

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Post by Wintergreen » Sun Oct 17, 2021 8:55 am

I too am impressed by Fylde’s main stand but l think it is a bit of a chocolate fire guard as it would provide little if any protection on a nasty night. All show and no substance which continues to be their ethos l guess.
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Post by mickycarrol » Sun Oct 17, 2021 9:00 am

NORTHERNSOUL wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 9:13 pm
mickycarrol wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:58 pm


Hate to say it but the main stand at Fylde is decent and has top notch boozer and facilities built in! Not sure how many seats it has mind may be a little low on numbers for us who made the EFL deadline they set themselves!
And do you know what its reputed to have cost ?

They are currently completing the fourth side of the ground with a structure that this time appears to be being built at a pretty reasonable cost.

I don’t know but do tell…………

I know let’s just stick half arsed efforts all over the ground cos we can’t raise money like EVERY other club seem to be able to. Why are we virtually the ONLY club who have just stick seats in weird places to make do!! Surely grants are available now we’re EFL, sponsorship must be more attractive etc etc.

Could always ask Holker Okd Boys for their stand and stick it somewhere eh……
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Post by spirit of 1990 » Sun Oct 17, 2021 9:47 am

mickycarrol wrote: ↑Sun Oct 17, 2021 9:00 am
NORTHERNSOUL wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 9:13 pm

And do you know what its reputed to have cost ?

They are currently completing the fourth side of the ground with a structure that this time appears to be being built at a pretty reasonable cost.

I don’t know but do tell…………

I know let’s just stick half arsed efforts all over the ground cos we can’t raise money like EVERY other club seem to be able to. Why are we virtually the ONLY club who have just stick seats in weird places to make do!! Surely grants are available now we’re EFL, sponsorship must be more attractive etc etc.

Could always ask Holker Okd Boys for their stand and stick it somewhere eh……
“Other clubs” Which other clubs, Salford, Fylde, Harrogate? These sort of clubs have very wealthy backers where we have local businessmen that have already pumped probably a lot more money into the club than they originally thought would be needed.
I’m sure if there’s a way to build something that we’d all be happy with they’d be all over it. In the meantime I’d rather stick a few unsightly areas of seating in the ground and keep our heads above water financially.
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Post by mickycarrol » Sun Oct 17, 2021 10:35 am

spirit of 1990 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 17, 2021 9:47 am
mickycarrol wrote: ↑Sun Oct 17, 2021 9:00 am


I don’t know but do tell…………

I know let’s just stick half arsed efforts all over the ground cos we can’t raise money like EVERY other club seem to be able to. Why are we virtually the ONLY club who have just stick seats in weird places to make do!! Surely grants are available now we’re EFL, sponsorship must be more attractive etc etc.

Could always ask Holker Okd Boys for their stand and stick it somewhere eh……
“Other clubs” Which other clubs, Salford, Fylde, Harrogate? These sort of clubs have very wealthy backers where we have local businessmen that have already pumped probably a lot more money into the club than they originally thought would be needed.
I’m sure if there’s a way to build something that we’d all be happy with they’d be all over it. In the meantime I’d rather stick a few unsightly areas of seating in the ground and keep our heads above water financially.

Wasn’t for a minute insinuating we should risk financial meltdown merely stating clubs I recall us playing in our non league days seem to find a way such as Cheltenham, Crawley, Accrington. I’ve no idea if these clubs have sugar daddies but there stands look the job. Granted they are much more established EFL clubs I know.
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Post by Jonty » Sun Oct 17, 2021 12:47 pm

I think we have probably exhausted our stadium funding grants with work done previously on floodlights and other works in Casson era
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