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Re: Brownies HONEYMOON PERIOD

Post by Stephen Leonard » Tue Apr 26, 2022 2:11 pm

mickmike wilson wrote: ↑Tue Apr 26, 2022 2:01 pm

Guess as a fan I’m over concerned that we have to do everything possible & cover all bases with this next appointment?
1000' of fans and 100's of Boards have done that over the years in 1000's of clubs around the world and the one pretty certain thing is that no matter how much research and planning you do, its usually down to a large slice of luck whether it works on not.
Some people really do need to think a bit more before they post things on here

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Re: Brownies HONEYMOON PERIOD

Post by Holkerbird » Tue Apr 26, 2022 2:53 pm

Well take an example of Chesterfield and Ian Evatt.
A person wanting the managers job who they must have known well the type of person he was and the qualities he had to convey what his ambitions were but they rejected him for the job.
The rest is history for them and us.

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Re: Brownies HONEYMOON PERIOD

Post by Fartvs Antiqvvs » Tue Apr 26, 2022 3:48 pm

Following Mark Cooper's departure here, Dale Vince had a further 'lightbulb' moment by deciding that the eternal revolving door of sacked managers was a thing of the past, try a different approach. He persuaded the England under 16s Coach Rob Edwards to take the team reins at FGR.

3 times manager of the month this season and EFL2 manager of the season. Food for thought perhaps?

As an ex Barrowvian and former H/S supporter, nice to see you crossed the line with the help of our whipping by your team. Perhaps you could repeat the performance v Exeter tonight to put icing on the cake here. 8-)
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Re: Brownies HONEYMOON PERIOD

Post by blue nige » Tue Apr 26, 2022 3:53 pm

Dale Vince can afford to make mistakes We Can't, so there's absolutely no pressure on him in his decision making, if it goes wrong he just gets out the cheque book!

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Re: Brownies HONEYMOON PERIOD

Post by Cubbins Paratrooper » Tue Apr 26, 2022 3:57 pm

Fartvs Antiqvvs wrote: ↑Tue Apr 26, 2022 3:48 pm
As an ex Barrowvian 8-)
Gosh, not lived in Barrow for decades though consider myself Barrovian through and through. Always interesting how we each see things differently.

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Re: Brownies HONEYMOON PERIOD

Post by Jonty » Tue Apr 26, 2022 3:59 pm

Main Stand SeasonTct wrote: ↑Tue Apr 26, 2022 2:00 pm
mickmike wilson wrote: ↑Tue Apr 26, 2022 1:55 pm

Question is how long had this gone on for & why was it allowed to continue for as long as it did? Again this IMHO comes from us having a kind of inferiority complex or little old Barrow NL mainstays, We have to grow up as a L2 club, here on merit, get out of the kitchen & mingle BAFC

The BoD are still learning as we go along so going above and beyond is important & im sure the difference lessons have been learned from our 2 yrs here.
IMO alot has to do with Cooper not wanting the job in the first place. He never applied. To quote Cooper when he got the job. "Barrow was never on my radar" The board persuaded him to take it.Hopefully lessons have been learned.
Yep the warning signs straight away from the very first Cooper interviews. If you have to persuade someone to do something then you have to ask if their heart and soul is really in it in the first place. Whatever ticks the boxes on their own wants and needs list is just part of it but they have to want it without persuasion.
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Re: Brownies HONEYMOON PERIOD

Post by walneyroad » Tue Apr 26, 2022 4:15 pm

Jonty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 26, 2022 3:59 pm
If you have to persuade someone to do something then you have to ask if their heart and soul is really in it in the first place. Whatever ticks the boxes on their own wants and needs list is just part of it but they have to want it without persuasion.
Food for thought then - did Brown apply, as Cooper was already in post? The speed of the changeover suggests that Brown was approached, but so far, so good!

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Post by McMark » Tue Apr 26, 2022 4:29 pm

walneyroad wrote: ↑Tue Apr 26, 2022 4:15 pm
Jonty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 26, 2022 3:59 pm
If you have to persuade someone to do something then you have to ask if their heart and soul is really in it in the first place. Whatever ticks the boxes on their own wants and needs list is just part of it but they have to want it without persuasion.
Food for thought then - did Brown apply, as Cooper was already in post? The speed of the changeover suggests that Brown was approached, but so far, so good!
🤔Or more logically Barrow spoke with Neil McDonald after seeing what he did last season with Rob Kelly and knowing he was still available. Then Neil McDonald recommended Phil Brown and said that he would work happily alongside him.

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Re: Brownies HONEYMOON PERIOD

Post by Fartvs Antiqvvs » Tue Apr 26, 2022 4:33 pm

Cubbins Paratrooper wrote: ↑Tue Apr 26, 2022 3:57 pm
Fartvs Antiqvvs wrote: ↑Tue Apr 26, 2022 3:48 pm
As an ex Barrowvian 8-)
Gosh, not lived in Barrow for decades though consider myself Barrovian through and through. Always interesting how we each see things differently.

English by Birth. Barrovian by the Grace of God.

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Re Dale Vince, B/N:

He is a pretty smart thinker, with an IQ of 150+. He has earned his cash. :)
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Re: Brownies HONEYMOON PERIOD

Post by Middleton Nick » Tue Apr 26, 2022 5:39 pm

Wasn't Brown in the stand at Rochdale while Cooper was still in charge. Maybe moves were afoot then.

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Post by McMark » Tue Apr 26, 2022 6:06 pm

Middleton Nick wrote: ↑Tue Apr 26, 2022 5:39 pm Wasn't Brown in the stand at Rochdale while Cooper was still in charge. Maybe moves were afoot then.
🤔Come to think of it Bluey had been squawking with a north east twang for a while before that!

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Re: Brownies HONEYMOON PERIOD

Post by Broughton Fan » Tue Apr 26, 2022 6:24 pm

Now that we are safe it’s a perfect time for Brown to showcase what a Brown team looks like and what sort of football we can expect now the pressure is off

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Re: Brownies HONEYMOON PERIOD

Post by Hitthebar22 » Tue Apr 26, 2022 11:54 pm

Broughton Fan wrote: ↑Tue Apr 26, 2022 6:24 pm Now that we are safe it’s a perfect time for Brown to showcase what a Brown team looks like and what sort of football we can expect now the pressure is off
With two games left? We know he likes the team to get the ball forward very quickly. With Holloway out that style is restricted; really missed him tonight. I know we’ve improved as a team under Brown, but if one player has influenced us staying up I’d put him ahead of Rooney, and all the others.
Also it’s far from a given that Brown would take the manager's job, even if offered.

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Re: Brownies HONEYMOON PERIOD

Post by Pedro » Wed Apr 27, 2022 5:37 am

Hitthebar22 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 26, 2022 11:54 pm
Broughton Fan wrote: ↑Tue Apr 26, 2022 6:24 pm Now that we are safe it’s a perfect time for Brown to showcase what a Brown team looks like and what sort of football we can expect now the pressure is off
With two games left? We know he likes the team to get the ball forward very quickly. With Holloway out that style is restricted; really missed him tonight. I know we’ve improved as a team under Brown, but if one player has influenced us staying up I’d put him ahead of Rooney, and all the others.
Also it’s far from a given that Brown would take the manager's job, even if offered.
With a full quota of players we all thought we would go down because we did not have the quality
Defensively we are sorted we all know we needed a couple of forwards and maybe midfield player.

Brown has been around long enough to realise that the Board we have are fair and balanced.

I think he will have talked to Neil Mcdonald and Rob Kelly and received positive feed back.

He may be offered a better long term deal elsewhere but he will actually have a longer term future with Barrow giving him a chance to develop a team.

I think he will stay.

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Re: Brownies HONEYMOON PERIOD

Post by walneyroad » Wed Apr 27, 2022 8:21 am

He's lost another game. He should be sacked! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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