Barrow v Cheltenham Town, match thread

[Pedro]

How good do people expect our second choice goalkeeper in League 2 to be?

I'm sure there will be a large overlap with the "20 goals a season" striker brigade.

Yes I wish we never had Scott Quigley 35 goals in two seasons helped us get promoted and stay up but that aside .

[olbarrafancumbak]

Maybe time to give Dallas a start with Aquaman?

Seems frustrated and chomping at the but in his interview, give him a few starts and let him prove himself?

In all honesty, my only gripe with team is the attackers, mainly Telford and Garner. Yes they can score but they don't seemed committed enough or hungry enough for me, they seem to lack that real desire that a goal scorer has!!

[saltcellar]

How good do people expect our second choice goalkeeper in League 2 to be?

I'm sure there will be a large overlap with the "20 goals a season" striker brigade.

Yes I wish we never had Scott Quigley 35 goals in two seasons helped us get promoted and stay up but that aside .

Scott Quigley did well in his spell for Barrow.
He managed 20 goals in one of the 2 seasons he played for us.
That though is the only time he has ever done it in the 13 seasons he has played.
It's not a proven track record.
Not many players though do have a proven track record and those that do will be costly to get.

[April1972]

[quote=Pedro post_id=533628 time=1728222753 user_id

Scott Quigley did well in his spell for Barrow.
He managed 20 goals in one of the 2 seasons he played for us.
That though is the only time he has ever done it in the 13 seasons he has played.
It's not a proven track record.
Not many players though do have a proven track record and those that do will be costly to get.

It’s so often ‘Horses for Courses’ especially in the lower leagues. A striker will do well somewhere with the right team and right circumstances but then be poor at another team and vice versa.
Quigley and Telford being prime examples.

[Hadrian]

I thought Stanway should have done better with Cheltenhams goal yesterday by pushing the initial shot wide instead of pushing it straight to Bowman allowing him to score.
That said he is in a bit of a no win situation. In Farman we have a keeper who I wouldn’t swap with anyone in league 2. Anyone that comes into replace him would be a step backwards ability wise imo

Do you have a view on the marking of Bowman prior to the goal or are you simply looking at the 'keeper?

[HenneysKnee]

You’d imagine Dallas gets a start on Tuesday night surely; see what he can do from the off

[JammyBluebird]

How good do people expect our second choice goalkeeper in League 2 to be?

I'm sure there will be a large overlap with the "20 goals a season" striker brigade.

Yes I wish we never had Scott Quigley 35 goals in two seasons helped us get promoted and stay up but that aside .

And when we signed him he wasn't hitting anywhere near that goal ratio, and we wouldn't have expected that return in all honesty.

Sometimes the player/team/coaching all falls nicely and a League 2/Conference level player will start banging goals in. E.g. Dom Telford at Newport with 25 goals in 37 games.

It doesn't happen every season, if it did then they wouldn't be available to us, and wouldn't be in League 2.

[Main Stand SeasonTct]

I thought Stanway should have done better with Cheltenhams goal yesterday by pushing the initial shot wide instead of pushing it straight to Bowman allowing him to score.
That said he is in a bit of a no win situation. In Farman we have a keeper who I wouldn’t swap with anyone in league 2. Anyone that comes into replace him would be a step backwards ability wise imo

Do you have a view on the marking of Bowman prior to the goal or are you simply looking at the 'keeper?

The keeper. Push the ball wider Bowman doesn't come into the equation and Feely would have cleared it away

[behind the goals]

Listening to Cheltenham manager's interview saying the same about our goals both being poor just like Clemence last week at Gillingham, can fans just agree most goals are mistakes at all levels of football or do we want 0-0 results every game, enjoy being 3rd in the league.

[SKIPPER]

Was very impressed by Wyll in the several Chester games I saw last season and was chuffed to bits when we signed him,I believe in competition with several other NW clubs and regardless of the local connection. Some of the comments on here are downright derogatory and unnecessary. The jibe about backpasses could apply to numerous goalkeepers even in the PL. Since the rule change, a needless knee-jerk reaction in my eyes, goalkeepers are forever being put under pressure by badly placed passes and often caught out re-Farman for Chelseas' fifth.As for yesterdays goal it should be noted there were half a dozen Barrow players in the box at the time. How many actually made a move towards Wylls' clearance ?

[behind the goals]

Was very impressed by Wyll in the several Chester games I saw last season and was chuffed to bits when we signed him,I believe in competition with several other NW clubs and regardless of the local connection. Some of the comments on here are downright derogatory and unnecessary. The jibe about backpasses could apply to numerous goalkeepers even in the PL. Since the rule change, a needless knee-jerk reaction in my eyes, goalkeepers are forever being put under pressure by badly placed passes and often caught out re-Farman for Chelseas' fifth.As for yesterdays goal it should be noted there were half a dozen Barrow players in the box at the time. How many actually made a move towards Wylls' clearance ?

+ 1 well said.

[bhbb]

Some people on here seriously need to grow up.

[Yanto]

And how many made a move to close down the Cheltenham goalscorer. He was stood in acres of space totally unmarked.
Unfair to be singling out Wyll Stanway as being at fault for their goal.

[pjdaly]

I think this criticism aimed at Stanway is harsh. Maybe their number 22 who received the ball and got the first shot away that Stanway parried could have been closed down more quickly and then the shot would never have come in in the first place. He gets quite a lot of time to dawdle on the ball before getting the shot away. And guess who our player was who was closest to him? Ben Jackson, a player who I rate very highly indeed.

I suppose the moral of the story is that nobody's perfect but football today indulges in this neurotic microanalysis down to the nth degree to try and find reasons and scapegoats for every goal conceded.

If Sir Bobby Moore had been on the pitch yesterday as part of our back line perhaps he would have said the same thing to young Stanway that he said to Gordon Banks after the latter made his miracle save from Pele at the World Cup in 1970 . . . "you're getting old, you used to catch those".

Instead of having a go at Stanway maybe we should just be pleased we got the win. Whisper it, but a little of that microanalysis by me suggests Newby got away with a foul just before crossing for our equaliser. But let's keep quiet about that. Nobody say anything.

[BAFC1901]

Criticism regard Stanway is pretty unfair tbh.

He’s come in for one of the best keepers in the league we all need to realise he isn’t at the standard of Farman YET he’s local I’d rather a local lad make mistakes than a random back up keeper.

He is still a baby in keeper terms plenty of time to learn & develop at his hometown club.