AFC Wimbledon

For all things Barrow AFC. Keep discussions civil and fair, we're all Barrow aren't we!
Stu1
Senior Member
Posts: 394
Joined: Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:12 am
Contact:

Re: AFC Wimbledon

Post by Stu1 » Sun Nov 17, 2024 7:48 am

Tallow wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2024 12:29 am
jeff1966 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2024 12:09 am No plan A and no plan B sums it up

We were promised this attacking front foot style, not happened, had injuries yes but Mahoney hasn’t done it yet, we create f*k all

I feel that 3rd December the club will be tweeting the corner flag picture with a statement of relieving Stephen of his duties
Who do you replace him with?
gamble on the best candidate we can find at the time, like everyone does. Then they realise what it's like travelling to and from Barrow and decide it's not really for them .

mickycarrol
Silver Member
Posts: 1399
Joined: Wed May 28, 2008 7:45 pm
Contact:

Re: AFC Wimbledon

Post by mickycarrol » Sun Nov 17, 2024 7:57 am

Stu1 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2024 7:48 am
Tallow wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2024 12:29 am
Who do you replace him with?
gamble on the best candidate we can find at the time, like everyone does. Then they realise what it's like travelling to and from Barrow and decide it's not really for them .

Not having the travel crack, if I’m on the money Telford reportedly gets I would travel to John O Groats every home fixture for the next 2 years of my contract happily. They know exactly where our town is when they sign on the dotted line.
"The trouble with referees is that they know the rules, but they dont know the game"
Bill Shankly

User avatar
McMark
BarrowAFC Veteran
Posts: 11311
Joined: Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:09 pm
Contact:

Re: AFC Wimbledon

Post by McMark » Sun Nov 17, 2024 7:59 am

Scott5 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2024 7:45 am
russell_anderson wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2024 1:01 am Sometimes I can hardly believe the rubbish I see on here. People criticising our defenders when, even after an admittedly bad day, have still only conceded more than 2 teams whilst there are only 6 teams who have scored less and at our current rate there will be even less soon. Talking about formations? It not the formations that are the problem, it's the ability of the forward players!
We have Dallas, Kirk, Garner, Telford, Kouyate who wouldn't get into any other team in the league. Newby who has some ability but is weak, Mahoney who also has some ability but is slow and puts in little effort.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with our defenders and nothing wrong with our midfield that a decent creative attacking midfielder wouldn't correct but there is absolutely nothing right about our attacking options and that will never improve with the current players. We are a little better when Acquah plays as he's the only forward player with any strength and can, at least, hold the ball sometimes but however well we defend and however much possession we have we are not going to score goals with the current strike force or I should say non-strike force!
I have to agree Russell. The forwards weren’t up to it last year and any success was built on a good defensive unit. Since then both Whitfield and Stockton have gone and been replaced by Kouyate, Dallas and you can add Kirk and Mahoney….

Forwards are powder puff and a defenders dream to play against. Lightweight and predictable and don’t work enough. Midfield needs to move the ball quicker at times yes and forwards but I think the lack of movement up top and wide doesn’t help.
So does the buck stop with the head coach Stephen Clemence and his team or does it ultimately stop with the head of recruitment Iain Wood whom the board have entrusted to take us forward long term.
Last edited by McMark on Sun Nov 17, 2024 8:11 am, edited 1 time in total.

Scott5
Veteran Member
Posts: 557
Joined: Sat Apr 27, 2024 9:19 pm
Contact:

Re: AFC Wimbledon

Post by Scott5 » Sun Nov 17, 2024 8:10 am

I think it was always a worry with the time taken to confirm that Wild had gone and to get a new manager in, that we would as a result be behind in getting a new manager in place and behind on recruitment.

It was never the intention for Wild to leave and we lost 3/4 weeks in May. Wood did some work but you’d have to say recruitment has been short overall. Resigning Feeley, Kouyate, not getting another midfielder in bar Weston who doesn’t seem to be rated, not improving the strikers and wingers. Foley was originally released but has again been our best midfielder at now 38….

Jackson has been a great signing by Clemence, Vassell is decent bar falling over but I’d argue the others aren’t any better or just aren’t as good as those they replaced. We’ve got the same midfield and attack almost as last season which wasn’t good enough then and was never likely to be good enough this time…

I would back Clemence but something needs to change soon as this is a worrying run.

ossickbluebird
Veteran Member
Posts: 617
Joined: Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:43 pm
Contact:

Re: AFC Wimbledon

Post by ossickbluebird » Sun Nov 17, 2024 8:25 am

After a terrible start yesterday, and I'm sure there'll be people on here who think that's Clemences fault, I thought we battled back very well. Dallas made some good runs and held it up well at times.
At 1-1 I could only see us going on to win it but the difference was they have a striker who could find space in the box and we haven't , the amount of balls that flashed across their 6 yard box in the 2nd half would be mouth-watering for a good striker. Therein lies our problem.

HenneysKnee
BarrowAFC Veteran
Posts: 8334
Joined: Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:28 pm
Contact:

Re: AFC Wimbledon

Post by HenneysKnee » Sun Nov 17, 2024 8:26 am

On the wingers etc wonder if it would be worth trying Mahoney as the 10; least until Garner is back fully fit
Not sure how long Spence is out for but when he’s back fit could be worth just picking him and Gotts in the middle and resting Campbell for a game or two as well

User avatar
Cokey
Platinum Member
Posts: 3346
Joined: Wed May 28, 2008 3:49 pm
Location: 7 minutes from greatness
Contact:

Re: AFC Wimbledon

Post by Cokey » Sun Nov 17, 2024 8:40 am

Time to go back to 5-3-2 I reckon. Ours wingers are so ineffective anyway and the number 10 role non-existent. Works when you have someone like a John Rooney (to use a recent player for comparison). Dom Telford should’ve done well in that role, but unfortunately hasn’t worked out with him like we’d hoped.

Ditch the lone striker. It isn’t working. Try and stabilise things at the back. We need to get back to keeping clean sheets and giving ourselves a chance in games. Whilst offering more of an attacking threat with two forwards to deal with, rather than just one on his own.

“Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.” - Albert Einstein

User avatar
Jim
BarrowAFC Veteran
Posts: 7259
Joined: Wed May 28, 2008 4:45 pm
Contact:

Re: AFC Wimbledon

Post by Jim » Sun Nov 17, 2024 9:11 am

I have just watched the highlights and, although I think they concentrated on Wimbledon's best bits, we looked well off the standard one would expect. The first goal was a chapter of errors, coming from our goal kick. Canavan took the goal kick (would it normally be Farman?) then when Jackson passed back to Farman did his poor kick stem from his previous injury - if so we need Stanway back.

Throughout the first half and also on one incident in the second, Wimbledon had more than one man lining up unchallenged outside the penalty area. Then for the third goal, I think there were 3 or 4 Barrow players backing off the player who ran in and scored.

Much to worry about there!

Cromwell58
Bronze Member
Posts: 840
Joined: Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:30 pm
Contact:

Re: AFC Wimbledon

Post by Cromwell58 » Sun Nov 17, 2024 9:13 am

What is it with the last quarter of the games, are we tired or is it a lack of concentration, we have been sussed out teams now know we fall apart at the end, cannot finish teams off.

Desmond2-2
Silver Member
Posts: 1250
Joined: Fri Aug 30, 2019 2:13 pm
Contact:

Re: AFC Wimbledon

Post by Desmond2-2 » Sun Nov 17, 2024 9:41 am

Jim,sorry pal,but I don’t want to hear anything you’ve got to say if you’re making an assessment of our performance,or the match from highlights FFS. A mix up put us 1 down, from then on we were the better team,we all know where our problem is,I’ve stated from watching pre season,but was ridiculed by some.Barrow play some excellent football,probably too much to be honest,Wimbledon didn’t play any,as soon as they won the ball they hoofed it forward,like Wimbledon of old.Unfortunately Pep would struggle to manage the forwards we have into a decent strike force, my one criticism of our manager is constantly playing a lone forward,it doesn’t work Stephen,and isn’t going to, please try playing 352, otherwise we are [SwearFilter].

AugustusCorpa
Gold Member
Posts: 1707
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2017 10:54 pm
Contact:

Re: AFC Wimbledon

Post by AugustusCorpa » Sun Nov 17, 2024 9:59 am

Since the Chelsea game we’ve played 9 league games and only won one of them. We’ve only scored 2 goals in one game since then, the Cheltenham win. Disappointing FA Cup exit to.
Was all going really well until we played Chelsea.

User avatar
Jim
BarrowAFC Veteran
Posts: 7259
Joined: Wed May 28, 2008 4:45 pm
Contact:

Re: AFC Wimbledon

Post by Jim » Sun Nov 17, 2024 10:04 am

Desmond2-2 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2024 9:41 am Jim,sorry pal,but I don’t want to hear anything you’ve got to say if you’re making an assessment of our performance,or the match from highlights FFS. A mix up put us 1 down, from then on we were the better team,we all know where our problem is,I’ve stated from watching pre season,but was ridiculed by some.Barrow play some excellent football,probably too much to be honest,Wimbledon didn’t play any,as soon as they won the ball they hoofed it forward,like Wimbledon of old.Unfortunately Pep would struggle to manage the forwards we have into a decent strike force, my one criticism of our manager is constantly playing a lone forward,it doesn’t work Stephen,and isn’t going to, please try playing 352, otherwise we are [SwearFilter].
I did say that the highlights were very Wimbledon-orientated. I also should have said that the highlights didn't reflect the game as it sounded on the commentary, which I heard in full. Nevertheless, in those 9 minutes, there were several examples of where we left Dons players with far too much space and that is worrying.

Louis29
Senior Member
Posts: 291
Joined: Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:30 pm
Contact:

Re: AFC Wimbledon

Post by Louis29 » Sun Nov 17, 2024 10:38 am

Three points from the last eight games is the worrying factor. That enough is painting a picture

blue nige
BarrowAFC Veteran
Posts: 7128
Joined: Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:21 pm
Location: Antarctica
Contact:

Re: AFC Wimbledon

Post by blue nige » Sun Nov 17, 2024 10:47 am

Tough one but here's my team for Saturday if these players are ft !
Farman/ Stanway

Eccleston feely canavan Vassell Jackson

Campbell Foley

Spence

Dallas/ Gardner. Newby

Not ideal but we need to stabilise things and be boring for a while, we have to grind out results if Clemence and the board don't realise this we'll sooner right down near the bottom NOBODY wants that scenario!

olbarrafancumbak
Gold Member
Posts: 2487
Joined: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:41 pm
Contact:

Re: AFC Wimbledon

Post by olbarrafancumbak » Sun Nov 17, 2024 10:49 am

AugustusCorpa wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2024 9:59 am Since the Chelsea game we’ve played 9 league games and only won one of them. We’ve only scored 2 goals in one game since then, the Cheltenham win. Disappointing FA Cup exit to.
Was all going really well until we played Chelsea.
Totally agree.. we were playing well, getting results and then the fa cup did something to us which I can't put my finger on?

It was all good and well and having that great experience and the money but it has naffed us up big time since.

Watching Wimbledons goals, they had bodies in the box, other teams do the same and for me, we don't do that.

We have to be stronger and smarter in the final minutes of the games, we have to manage our possession and surroundings. To loose the points or the games like we have is unforgivable when it keeps happening.

Perhaps 2 up front is definitely a good for thought, at least we stand a chance of keeping the ball more of we have bodies up the other end of the pitch?

Oh I dunno, it's just frustrating and disappointing.

Got to see what clemmence can do come January and hope and pray we get someone who gives a shit and knows how to finish wether that's inside or outside of the box!

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 17 guests