Seriously how do we stay up ?

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Re: Seriously how do we stay up ?

Post by Wintergreen » Fri Mar 20, 2026 9:34 pm

russell_anderson wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2026 6:59 pm
I'd say, the reason Bromley and similar clubs like Barnet are more successful than a club like Barrow is purely down to the fact that the pool of talent in the wider London area is huge whereas the pool of talent available to Barrow is very small. London and other large cities have a huge advantage over clubs in small provincial towns because there are so many players who play at lower EFL level who can join a club without moving home.

Fair comment, Bromley also have significant investment behind them at the moment, something we have been seeking for some time to no avail. Also our 'hybrid' set-up is not really conducive to reserve or youth teams. It is what it is and probably all down to money.
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Re: Seriously how do we stay up ?

Post by mulholland » Fri Mar 20, 2026 9:58 pm

jeff1966 wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2026 7:32 pm Considering the title of this post its certainly gone off on a tangent. Cross that bridge at end of season. Despite them being top it wouldn’t be that mad to turn Bromley over. Beat Walsall and Oldham at home, also not massively beyond the realms. MK and Cambridge we can write off, anything’s a bonus. The others Barnet and Grimsby away and chesterfield at home wouldn’t also be a major shock to pick up points. The leagues poor and we don’t need reminding we are the poorest but it’s far from over, least wait till Bromley put 4 into us next Saturday for that
You're quite correct Jeff. In my defence I was though only picking up on a point previously made.
We will get an unexpected result somewhere along the line so why not tomorrow.
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Re: Seriously how do we stay up ?

Post by Steeley » Fri Mar 20, 2026 10:37 pm

The only way we were ever going to have a youth set up was surviving and building slowly in the football league and reaping the benefits but we’ve cocked it up.
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Re: Seriously how do we stay up ?

Post by Jonty » Sat Mar 21, 2026 5:04 pm

Forgive me for my earlier optimism.
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Re: Seriously how do we stay up ?

Post by FanzoneFan » Sat Mar 21, 2026 8:13 pm

Well at least we’ve found a level of consistency.

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Re: Seriously how do we stay up ?

Post by andyg » Mon Mar 23, 2026 9:00 pm

Jonty wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2026 6:56 pm
andyg wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2026 2:24 pm

You are so right - the club still thinks, I reckon, like a non league club. Tranmere Carlisle and others do not think like that whether we like it or not. Sure Carlisle are in non league but they still think like a league outfit. We must change our mindset. If we go down (I still have some hope - don't ask me why) we must go into the non league with a big club mentality not that pathetic "little Barrow" attitude. We must keep players we think will help us at National League level. Get some Rooney & Quigley type players into the squad. Believe me it is awful football in the National League. We have got to think like Evatt did and ask ourselves can we best the best we can possibly be and think big. A couple of years back Grimsby proved it can be done. Getting relegated with an awful team (although they did the double over us surprise surprise), had a poor start adjusting to non league got their act together went on a great run and were promoted via the play offs. They had the right attitude - we are a league club in the wrong place. Shrewsbury also did it as well a number of years ago.
Does your mindset comment include the Barrow fans?
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Re: Seriously how do we stay up ?

Post by olefogey » Mon Mar 23, 2026 9:41 pm

Sick of hearing about this so-called 'little Barrow' mentality. It's all just opinion, and what one person sees as a 'little Barrow' mindset, another sees as simply a realistic acknowledgement of what we are. You might as well call the opposite view 'delusions of grandeur'! A club in our situation with the level of funding and the crowds we get can hardly claim to be a giant of the league. In any case, I doubt very much if the mindset of fans either way is much of a factor in the situation in which the club finds itself. At the moment, whether we are a sleeping giant or a minnow, we can only hope that by some miracle the present bunch can scrape together enough points to keep us at this level.

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Re: Seriously how do we stay up ?

Post by Stand21 » Mon Mar 23, 2026 9:56 pm

They find it impossible to win games of football so no we cant win and the mathematics say we will be relegated.

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Re: Seriously how do we stay up ?

Post by Bluebird_john » Mon Mar 23, 2026 10:39 pm

Tell you what… imagine how gut wrenching it must be for those local businesses, suppliers etc whom the club struggle to pay on time knowing they have no trouble paying the spineless [SwearFilter] who are taking us down!

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Emergency manager

Post by Stand21 » Mon Mar 23, 2026 10:50 pm

This team needs a Manager Now! Barrow must be insane letting dino go for whatever reason their is no excuse.

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Post by HenneysKnee » Tue Mar 24, 2026 6:31 am

Stand21 wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2026 10:50 pm This team needs a Manager Now! Barrow must be insane letting dino go for whatever reason their is no excuse.
If they did bring (yet another) a new manager in would you trust the decision makers to get it right? Or even like with Gallagher would it just be someone the players thought was a good craic at training?

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Re: Seriously how do we stay up ?

Post by Rushy » Tue Mar 24, 2026 7:01 pm

I wouldn't mind seeing Dino come back at the end of the season to clear out the dross and sign some players with a bit of fight that suit his style of management .
We could do worse.

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Re: Seriously how do we stay up ?

Post by SayitagainSam » Tue Mar 24, 2026 8:41 pm

AI scenarios (for what it's worth) - but it's looking like 'Mission Impossible'.


Latest position
Current points: 29
Games left: 8
Safety target: 46–48 points

17–19 points needed from 8 games

That translates to:
6 wins (safe)
Or:
5 wins + 3 draws

Survival probability
Stay up: 20–30%
Relegated: 70–80%

A big uphill battle

Final points projection
Most likely outcome:
Wins: 3
Draws: 2
Final points: 38–40

Still likely relegated

Survival scenario
To stay up, Barrow now need:

5 wins out of 8 games

Anything less.

Relegation becomes very likely.

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Re: Seriously how do we stay up ?

Post by Bingley Blue » Tue Mar 24, 2026 8:54 pm

SayitagainSam wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2026 8:41 pm AI scenarios (for what it's worth) - but it's looking like 'Mission Impossible'.


Latest position
Current points: 29
Games left: 8
Safety target: 46–48 points

17–19 points needed from 8 games

That translates to:
6 wins (safe)
Or:
5 wins + 3 draws

Survival probability
Stay up: 20–30%
Relegated: 70–80%

A big uphill battle

Final points projection
Most likely outcome:
Wins: 3
Draws: 2
Final points: 38–40

Still likely relegated

Survival scenario
To stay up, Barrow now need:

5 wins out of 8 games

Anything less.

Relegation becomes very likely.
What are you on about? We don’t need 46-48 points to stay up. That would mean both Newport and Crawley going close to getting two points per game between now and the end of the season.

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Re: Seriously how do we stay up ?

Post by SayitagainSam » Tue Mar 24, 2026 9:02 pm

Bingley Blue wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2026 8:54 pm
SayitagainSam wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2026 8:41 pm AI scenarios (for what it's worth) - but it's looking like 'Mission Impossible'.


Latest position
Current points: 29
Games left: 8
Safety target: 46–48 points

17–19 points needed from 8 games

That translates to:
6 wins (safe)
Or:
5 wins + 3 draws

Survival probability
Stay up: 20–30%
Relegated: 70–80%

A big uphill battle

Final points projection
Most likely outcome:
Wins: 3
Draws: 2
Final points: 38–40

Still likely relegated

Survival scenario
To stay up, Barrow now need:

5 wins out of 8 games

Anything less.

Relegation becomes very likely.
What are you on about? We don’t need 46-48 points to stay up. That would mean both Newport and Crawley going close to getting two points per game between now and the end of the season.
AI talking (for what it's worth) - don't shoot the messenger.

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