Which manager might have kept us up ?

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Re: Which manager might have kept us up ?

Post by Hendoblue » Thu Apr 30, 2026 12:04 pm

Main Stand SeasonTct wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2026 10:45 am
Hendoblue wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2026 10:05 am

Instead the club went the cheap route by putting in dangerously inexperienced Gallagher in charge and by doing so they hired literally the worst manager in the clubs history adding greatly to this disastrous season at that point.

No no no Michael Jolly gets that award of the worst manager.
Michael Jolley not only won a game, he won 2. Gallagher lost each game he was in charge.

Micky Moore won more games than him!
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Re: Which manager might have kept us up ?

Post by Adam29 » Thu Apr 30, 2026 12:10 pm

Jolley only won one game
The first game that people accredit him is the port vale game on Boxing Day but Rob Kelly was in charge for that one and Jolley was on a watching brief

Jolley’s only official win was a 1-0 v Scunthorpe

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Re: Which manager might have kept us up ?

Post by Cokey » Thu Apr 30, 2026 12:55 pm

Adam29 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2026 12:10 pm Jolley only won one game
The first game that people accredit him is the port vale game on Boxing Day but Rob Kelly was in charge for that one and Jolley was on a watching brief

Jolley’s only official win was a 1-0 v Scunthorpe
I would still say Paul Gallagher's all defeats record and even David Dunn were worse.

You forget about Dunn. 2 wins from 22. That's half a season!

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Post by Hendoblue » Thu Apr 30, 2026 1:09 pm

Adam29 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2026 12:10 pm Jolley only won one game
The first game that people accredit him is the port vale game on Boxing Day but Rob Kelly was in charge for that one and Jolley was on a watching brief

Jolley’s only official win was a 1-0 v Scunthorpe
Incorrect.

He was in charge when Barrow won 2-0 at Port Vale on Boxing day 2020. He was appointed 23rd December 2020

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Re: Which manager might have kept us up ?

Post by InTheShires » Thu Apr 30, 2026 1:18 pm

Not sure anyone would have succeeded - the players clearly went against Dino probably because they didn’t cope with a bit of tough love. Had he had a transfer window who knows. Billy Barr ended up doing a superb job for Workington - they weee 9 adrift when he took over and they stayed up. Maybe Steve Evans but doubt he was interested. Essentially a whole raft of shoddy signings scuppered things and don’t think Canavan was a good captain either.

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Re: Which manager might have kept us up ?

Post by Cokey » Thu Apr 30, 2026 1:59 pm

Hendoblue wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2026 1:09 pm
Adam29 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2026 12:10 pm Jolley only won one game
The first game that people accredit him is the port vale game on Boxing Day but Rob Kelly was in charge for that one and Jolley was on a watching brief

Jolley’s only official win was a 1-0 v Scunthorpe
Incorrect.

He was in charge when Barrow won 2-0 at Port Vale on Boxing day 2020. He was appointed 23rd December 2020
Michael Jolley was appointed manager on the 23rd December.

I imagine because there was no training on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day, a decision was made that Rob Kelly (assistant manager) would take charge of that Boxing Day game (choose the side, the tactics, make subs and be on the touchline/bench). Michael Jolley, who'd had no time to do anything, watched on from the stands to gain a further understanding of the team/system/players. That's why, technically, the win isn't attributed to him as manager.

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Re: Which manager might have kept us up ?

Post by Adam29 » Thu Apr 30, 2026 2:22 pm

Hendoblue wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2026 1:09 pm
Adam29 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2026 12:10 pm Jolley only won one game
The first game that people accredit him is the port vale game on Boxing Day but Rob Kelly was in charge for that one and Jolley was on a watching brief

Jolley’s only official win was a 1-0 v Scunthorpe
Incorrect.

He was in charge when Barrow won 2-0 at Port Vale on Boxing day 2020. He was appointed 23rd December 2020
Incorrect - yes he was appointing on the 23rd BUT it was Rob Kelly who was in charge v Port Vale.

It was Rob Kelly who I spoke to after that very game - and Michael Jolley was sat in the stand not too far away from where we were sat in the press box

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Re: Which manager might have kept us up ?

Post by barrowaberdeen » Thu Apr 30, 2026 2:55 pm

Cokey wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2026 12:55 pm
Adam29 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2026 12:10 pm Jolley only won one game
The first game that people accredit him is the port vale game on Boxing Day but Rob Kelly was in charge for that one and Jolley was on a watching brief

Jolley’s only official win was a 1-0 v Scunthorpe
I would still say Paul Gallagher's all defeats record and even David Dunn were worse.

You forget about Dunn. 2 wins from 22. That's half a season!
Dunn horrific
Gallagher horrificer
Jolley horrificest
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Imho.

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Re: Which manager might have kept us up ?

Post by Steeley » Thu Apr 30, 2026 3:45 pm

Whilst Gallagher may be more likeable he’s statistically the worst as he lost every game.
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Re: Which manager might have kept us up ?

Post by bluessupporter » Thu Apr 30, 2026 3:49 pm

I don't think any of these managers managed to get everybody pulling together as one.

I believe there are factions of different players, and nobody has been able to get them working together for each other as one big happy family, as Ray Wilkie did in 1990.

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Re: Which manager might have kept us up ?

Post by Hendoblue » Thu Apr 30, 2026 3:50 pm

Adam29 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2026 2:22 pm
Hendoblue wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2026 1:09 pm

Incorrect.

He was in charge when Barrow won 2-0 at Port Vale on Boxing day 2020. He was appointed 23rd December 2020
Incorrect - yes he was appointing on the 23rd BUT it was Rob Kelly who was in charge v Port Vale.

It was Rob Kelly who I spoke to after that very game - and Michael Jolley was sat in the stand not too far away from where we were sat in the press box
Who was the manager of Barrow AFC on 26/12/2020?

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Re: Which manager might have kept us up ?

Post by Adam29 » Thu Apr 30, 2026 4:57 pm

Hendoblue wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2026 3:50 pm
Adam29 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2026 2:22 pm

Incorrect - yes he was appointing on the 23rd BUT it was Rob Kelly who was in charge v Port Vale.

It was Rob Kelly who I spoke to after that very game - and Michael Jolley was sat in the stand not too far away from where we were sat in the press box
Who was the manager of Barrow AFC on 26/12/2020?
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Re: Which manager might have kept us up ?

Post by MisterPleasant » Thu Apr 30, 2026 5:36 pm

bluessupporter wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2026 3:49 pm I don't think any of these managers managed to get everybody pulling together as one.

I believe there are factions of different players, and nobody has been able to get them working together for each other as one big happy family, as Ray Wilkie did in 1990.
To be fair to Pete Wild - and I'm not one advocating his return - I think his squad was united. One of his recruitment tenets was 'Never mind if they're a good player, first, are they a good person? Will they fit in?'
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Re: Which manager might have kept us up ?

Post by bluessupporter » Thu Apr 30, 2026 7:37 pm

MisterPleasant wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2026 5:36 pm
bluessupporter wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2026 3:49 pm I don't think any of these managers managed to get everybody pulling together as one.

I believe there are factions of different players, and nobody has been able to get them working together for each other as one big happy family, as Ray Wilkie did in 1990.
To be fair to Pete Wild - and I'm not one advocating his return - I think his squad was united. One of his recruitment tenets was 'Never mind if they're a good player, first, are they a good person? Will they fit in?'
Absolutely - that's spot on and I remember him saying it.

I don't think that is happening now, but with so many people in charge this season it has gone out of the window with the result that we are - barring a miracle - about to lose our FL status.

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Re: Which manager might have kept us up ?

Post by Steeley » Thu Apr 30, 2026 8:20 pm

MisterPleasant wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2026 5:36 pm
bluessupporter wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2026 3:49 pm I don't think any of these managers managed to get everybody pulling together as one.

I believe there are factions of different players, and nobody has been able to get them working together for each other as one big happy family, as Ray Wilkie did in 1990.
To be fair to Pete Wild - and I'm not one advocating his return - I think his squad was united. One of his recruitment tenets was 'Never mind if they're a good player, first, are they a good person? Will they fit in?'
Bring him home
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