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Re: Casson out!
Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 8:03 pm
by Jonty
Agee with Mr Grey in that a football club goes way beyond what happens on the pitch. These days the footballing side of things is is often dealt with by a Head of Football Ops, which is a key role in modern football (hate the phrase or not, it's where we are) When I say Head of Football Ops, I don't just mean identifying player targets. The role and accountability goes way beyond that. I would like to see that role filled in with an out an out football business brain, with the know-how and the key contacts in the game. The way I see it, A Casson is trying to do too much and he needs to build that experienced team around him. For me, this role that is as important to the development of the club as the next manager is to sort things out on the pitch.
Re: Casson out!
Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 8:04 pm
by olbarrafancumbak
And if you don't like what ive written then ban me! Summit that should be done to the people who are hell bent on crippling the club!!!!!! Pack of shit stirring arse wipes
Re: Casson out!
Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 8:20 pm
by barrowfan
olbarrafancumbak wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2017 8:01 pm
barrowfan wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2017 7:51 pm
"Now then Mr. Student Applicant - what experience do you have?"
"I learnt everything I know at a football club"
"Which one?"
"Barrow"
"Haven't they just been relegated and lost the best part of two million pounds in two years?"
"Yes"
"Next!"
Oh give over... your as bad as the landlied, the notoriousbullshittingman and pedroshite..
In other words you've no answer?
What sort of business experience are they gaining by bringing them into a company that gives a man a 30 month contract and sacks him after a few weeks but has to carry on paying him?
What sort of good business practice are they learning working for a company that brings in a 'Head of Operations' but doesn't tell or involve the Manager who is supposed to run that side of the business and subsequently loses most of his main duties to the new man?
In my experience these 'students' are told they are going to learn lots but in reality they are unsupervised for most of the time and just provide labour that costs the firm little or nothing at all.
Re: Casson out!
Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 8:23 pm
by barrowfan
Jonty wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2017 8:03 pm
I would like to see that role filled in with an out an out football business brain, with the know-how and the key contacts in the game. [ For me, this role that is as important to the development of the club as the next manager is to sort things out on the pitch.
Spot on Jonty.
Re: Casson out!
Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 10:17 pm
by mr_grey
barrowfan wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2017 7:51 pm
"Now then Mr. Student Applicant - what experience do you have?"
Three years in a sports business institution studying football business and marketing/ International events, Sports Business and Coaching and Football Law.
Maybe some research in UCFB and you will find the many other degree opportunities for young individuals.
"I learnt everything I know at a football club"
Alongside this, there are opportunities to discuss with professional people within the football industry. Can name but a few... Jamie Carragher, ex Premier League footballer, current Commentator/Pundit, Clarke Carlise ex Premier league footballer, current UCFB tutor, Neil Doncaster current UCFB tutor and current CEO of SPFL, Darren Bernstein ex Marketing Business Support Manager for the Football Association, current UCFB tutor.
"Which one?"
"Barrow"
"Haven't they just been relegated and lost the best part of two million pounds in two years?"
"Yes"
"Next!"
No matter what club a student from this University gets experience, whether its a club being promoted, relegated or sitting nicely in the middle of a table the practical knowledge will still be of a high standard to successfully perform in any football club or job.
Re: Casson out!
Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 10:42 pm
by Pedro
olbarrafancumbak wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2017 8:01 pm
barrowfan wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2017 7:51 pm
"Now then Mr. Student Applicant - what experience do you have?"
"I learnt everything I know at a football club"
"Which one?"
"Barrow"
"Haven't they just been relegated and lost the best part of two million pounds in two years?"
"Yes"
"Next!"
Oh give over... your as bad as the landlied, the notoriousbullshittingman and pedroshite..
People are allowed to voice concerns the way the club has been stripped of its best players and the rest of the team disbanded plus the loss of manager , asistant,physio,CEO
etc.
Maybe you help to release the fake news that all is well and we have equal or better players and replaced Cox with a better manager
The sooner you realise whats going on at the club the better ,of course it may be going the way you and the owner want and thats not being successfull.
Re: Casson out!
Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 10:46 pm
by Pedro
barrowfan wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2017 7:51 pm
"Now then Mr. Student Applicant - what experience do you have?"
"I learnt everything I know at a football club"
"Which one?"
"Barrow"
"Haven't they just been relegated and lost the best part of two million pounds in two years?"
"Yes"
"Next!"
That sounds too sensible you will be getting the thought police after you!
Re: Casson out!
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:54 am
by alvin
Whats this guy on casson out? if your not happy do one mate both cassons do there best good and bad times your a [SwearFilter] mate do one tosser..
Re: Casson out!
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 2:28 am
by mickmike wilson
Pedro wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2017 10:42 pm
olbarrafancumbak wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2017 8:01 pm
Oh give over... your as bad as the landlied, the notoriousbullshittingman and pedroshite..
People are allowed to voice concerns the way the club has been stripped of its best players and the rest of the team disbanded plus the loss of manager , asistant,physio,CEO
etc.
Maybe you help to release the fake news that all is well and we have equal or better players and replaced Cox with a better manager
The sooner you realise whats going on at the club the better ,of course it may be going the way you and the owner want and thats not being successfull.
So all these people are whiter than white & the Cassons are evil doers deliberately running the club into oblivion & ive read before you believe they will build houses on the site?
Question for you, What’s it like walking around with that tin foil on yer napper, You must get funny looks & comments....
Back to reality,
Have the Cassons made mistakes...Yes
Will they make any more...Probably...As each and everyone of us do, As each Organization, Business, Government, .Sports clubs etc..Everyone does and continues too but several fools on here drone on & on at any slight miskate & some big ones but FFS... They have invested MILLIONS into the club & continue to invest, Cocks had a 900k Players budget this season.... Add all the other things the Cassons have spent money on (It’s beendone to death) They suffered a manager who was cheating the club & it’s supporters all while badly preparing the side & prostituting himself out to anyone who might need a manager, So the Cassons took steps to try & steady the ship before in Berg hit & they take the shitt for the fallout....Unbelieveable Jeff.
The club takes loads of abuse but have to suffer silently due to the workings of football & legalities etc But you carry on blaming them for EVERYTHING
Re: Casson out!
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:34 am
by Wintergreen
Good rant Mike - every word rings true.
It's backs to the wall time for the club - are you for us or agin us?
Re: Casson out!
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:19 pm
by mall
alvin wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:54 am
Whats this guy on casson out? if your not happy do one mate both cassons do there best good and bad times your a [SwearFilter] mate do one tosser..
Bang on Alvin.
The going is rough at the moment but we will come through this bad patch ok.
Re: Casson out!
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:30 pm
by Robby blue
Why say this about a guy who is prepared to put in his own hard earned cash to..
A develop the football club on and off the field
B run it as a business (if he can make a few quid along the way good on him)
We finished 6th last season(brilliant in my book) and ok this season it's been a learning curve for him but we are doing ok and I'm sure will pull things around.
Ask yourself this would you rather be in conf north on the bones of our arses.
I just don't understand this kind of mentality.
Re: Casson out!
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:04 pm
by olbarrafancumbak
Robby blue wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:30 pm
Why say this about a guy who is prepared to put in his own hard earned cash to..
A develop the football club on and off the field
B run it as a business (if he can make a few quid along the way good on him)
We finished 6th last season(brilliant in my book) and ok this season it's been a learning curve for him but we are doing ok and I'm sure will pull things around.
Ask yourself this would you rather be in conf north on the bones of our arses.
I just don't understand this kind of mentality.
SPOT ON!!!
Re: Casson out!
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:42 pm
by paddy71
olbarrafancumbak wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:04 pm
Robby blue wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:30 pm
Why say this about a guy who is prepared to put in his own hard earned cash to..
A develop the football club on and off the field
B run it as a business (if he can make a few quid along the way good on him)
We finished 6th last season(brilliant in my book) and ok this season it's been a learning curve for him but we are doing ok and I'm sure will pull things around.
Ask yourself this would you rather be in conf north on the bones of our arses.
I just don't understand this kind of mentality.
SPOT ON!!!
Apart from the fact we finished 7th
Re: Casson out!
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:57 pm
by finbar17
I don’t believe the cassons are purposefully running the club down. I believe they need to run it better. If that means another sorting of the wheat from the chaff then so be it. Enough mistakes have been made that the cassons must have learnt a little by now. I’m still of the belief that without them we wouldn’t be where we are. But with them it looks like we’re taking steps back. Get Pennock in And kick on out of this slump. BLUEBIRDS.