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Suppose Xmas isn't the best time for negotiation??Blue Bayou wrote: ↑Sat Dec 27, 2025 3:44 pm Looking for positives here. Maybe the deafening silence could be to do with an imminent big announcement that will give us all renewed hope for 2026!
Not often I agree with you Pedro but agree with every word of your post.Pedro wrote: ↑Sat Dec 27, 2025 7:31 amThis is really out of order.
Very easy to spend other people's money.
The people who have backed Barrow have done it out of love of the club not for profit.
You also have to think the likes of Mr Hornby are from more of a gentle background.
Personally I think they have been hoodwinked.
There are alot of Charlatans in football.
Phil Brown had the gift of the gab.
A former Manager of ours went to a non league club and in less than half a season used 40 players turned out he was. a agent as well.
The naivety was shown by the appointment of Dunn and Jolly!!!
I think the money seen spent has wasted which comes from people.talking a good job but not actually doing one.
We have to let the board get on and the silence is indicative of us being in trouble.
Whatever happens one should not doubt there sincerity so let's get off there back.
We all know Mcdonald is not the answer ,even if Cook comes without some guidance off the field he could fail.
I don't know if this is true, but on X a group called football league world has stated Barrow pay £4.2 million per annum in wages. The 8th highest in EFL2.liverpoolann wrote: ↑Sun Dec 28, 2025 9:02 amNot often I agree with you Pedro but agree with every word of your post.Pedro wrote: ↑Sat Dec 27, 2025 7:31 am
This is really out of order.
Very easy to spend other people's money.
The people who have backed Barrow have done it out of love of the club not for profit.
You also have to think the likes of Mr Hornby are from more of a gentle background.
Personally I think they have been hoodwinked.
There are alot of Charlatans in football.
Phil Brown had the gift of the gab.
A former Manager of ours went to a non league club and in less than half a season used 40 players turned out he was. a agent as well.
The naivety was shown by the appointment of Dunn and Jolly!!!
I think the money seen spent has wasted which comes from people.talking a good job but not actually doing one.
We have to let the board get on and the silence is indicative of us being in trouble.
Whatever happens one should not doubt there sincerity so let's get off there back.
We all know Mcdonald is not the answer ,even if Cook comes without some guidance off the field he could fail.
Some idiots on here just like to say something controversial to stir things up.
Last season Paul Hornby was on record in stating the wage bill was around £2.5 million and at the start of this season he said there was no increase from the owners on that saying we are in the lower reaches of the wages paid table this seasonTallow wrote: ↑Sun Dec 28, 2025 10:32 amI don't know if this is true, but on X a group called football league world has stated Barrow pay £4.2 million per annum in wages. The 8th highest in EFL2.liverpoolann wrote: ↑Sun Dec 28, 2025 9:02 am
Not often I agree with you Pedro but agree with every word of your post.
Some idiots on here just like to say something controversial to stir things up.
Difficult to criticise any BOD when players/agents are demanding these amounts.
Hearing the playing budget is around the 2.2m figure, we are around 14th on spending. Are we and the board getting value for that I would say not. I think this is what the board referenced when they say they have the players to get us out of this. Carlisle spent a lot more and it didn’t work for them. Still big decisions to be made and still time for them to be made.Tallow wrote: ↑Sun Dec 28, 2025 10:32 amI don't know if this is true, but on X a group called football league world has stated Barrow pay £4.2 million per annum in wages. The 8th highest in EFL2.liverpoolann wrote: ↑Sun Dec 28, 2025 9:02 am
Not often I agree with you Pedro but agree with every word of your post.
Some idiots on here just like to say something controversial to stir things up.
Difficult to criticise any BOD when players/agents are demanding these amounts.
It's a blooming difficult question to answer!!barrowaberdeen wrote: ↑Sun Dec 28, 2025 11:18 am Lets use John Brady as an example.
Given inflation, 120k a year easily
Assistant: 90k
Various staff x 2 100k
Then there's 'tried and trusted players I need' so ler's say 3 at 100k a year each
Add any pay offs.
Then there's folk we'd have to get out to the National League. Let's say Marcus Cooperio and Mika Jollie are on 2k per week. Gateshead copper up 1k a week and we still pay the rest.
Crowds are down and they are worried about long term sustainability
And theyve done this on several occasions over the last five years.
We've a home support, some of whom only know the league we are in and rightly expect a reasonsble standard of competitiveness at Holker Street.
Another section are firmly glass half empty, utterly love the club and utterly expect disaster and struggle...will embrace that narrative at every turn (see also town improvements)
All are demanding 'action' (including me)which likely means putting hands in pockets, notwithstanding the result of is going through the trapdoor.
Youve an 'old head' scenario that worked with Rob Kelly post Jolley...they must have been praying McDonald would improve matters. But it seems the opposite.
What would you do?
I can’t disagree with any of that. Not many clubs are run as a sustainable business at our level but the difference we have is our owners don’t have as deep a pockets as most others at our level and hence no spare cash to through at the club willy nilly.
No need to shout Nige haha I agree. Except to say nothing ablut football is either sane or sustainable