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Re: Club to go to cashless payments

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 12:25 pm
by JammyBluebird
xerxes wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 12:12 pm
Jonty wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:11 pm

Discrimination- I can’t do that on my Nokia 3310.
And some may not have a printer, or even a computer. So they have to queue once for a ticket, and then again at the turnstile. This is wrong regardless of whether you pay by cash or card.
I'm sorry but it's not wrong. It's standard practice at most sporting/concert venues.

The reason is when start getting big ques the people paying cash hold up the que and lots miss the start of the game. Having worked the turnstiles several times at Barrow, it's absolutely hellish on a busy match as you cannot process that many cash transactions in 10/15 minutes just prior to kick off.

A system where you can let people in and no one is paying should mean that there are only small fast moving ques at the turnstiles.

Re: Club to go to cashless payments

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 12:28 pm
by capman
Bull shit what Happens when the scanners don’t work to scan the tickets or when people take ages to get their mobile phones out the pockets you get the same queues with technology

Re: Club to go to cashless payments

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 1:54 pm
by Methuselah
I think it is about time this was put to bed.If you want your kids to go to the match and you want to pay by cash,you go to the ground during the week and buy them a ticket.You will be able to buy soft drinks,hot drinks and a snack at the kiosks using cash.It,s just the fanzone and the shop on maychdayswhere you will have to use a card.
Having been a shop steward,some times you have to compromise when you find an agreement which though does not give you everything you want comes close to it even if you are not totally sàtisfied.
I think the club has met the supporters demands by agreeing for the kiosks to still accept cash because most people in the stands want a hot drink at half time especially in winter.
It,s not perfect but it shows the directors have listened bý reversing their original decision,so let,s put all this behind us and turn our attention to supporting Barrow AFC in the season to come. :scarf: :scarf:

Re: Club to go to cashless payments

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:05 pm
by MisterPleasant
Exactly so, Methuselah.

Re: Club to go to cashless payments

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:26 pm
by Steeley
Methuselah wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 1:54 pm I think it is about time this was put to bed.If you want your kids to go to the match and you want to pay by cash,you go to the ground during the week and buy them a ticket.You will be able to buy soft drinks,hot drinks and a snack at the kiosks using cash.It,s just the fanzone and the shop on maychdayswhere you will have to use a card.
Having been a shop steward,some times you have to compromise when you find an agreement which though does not give you everything you want comes close to it even if you are not totally sàtisfied.
I think the club has met the supporters demands by agreeing for the kiosks to still accept cash because most people in the stands want a hot drink at half time especially in winter.
It,s not perfect but it shows the directors have listened bý reversing their original decision,so let,s put all this behind us and turn our attention to supporting Barrow AFC in the season to come. :scarf: :scarf:
Not reversed the plan though have they? It's all pretty much in place, all they've done is slow down the truck and shout out of the window acrually you can buy a Bovril if you've got a quid on you.

Feel like I'm banging on now but I just don't think it's right were putting barriers in place stopping kids coming to matches.
Another point being that sadly a lot of parents won't be arsed enough to buy tickets or sort out this stupid card idea.

Re: Club to go to cashless payments

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:42 pm
by EABluebird
Moribund wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 12:20 pm It's discrimination against people who only want to pay by cheque.
I see what you’re doing there! Cheques certainly take me back, banks etc still accept them too!

I think what this debacle has shown is that the board indeed do listen to the fans and I’m sure the next time PH goes on Radio Cumberland he’ll explain the thinking behind it. I think we should accept that cashless is the direction we are moving in ( the can’s been partially kicked down the road for now ) and those of us that prefer to use cash will eventually need to adapt. Football is a business and businesses need maximum efficiency, the queues can get quite bad in the ground so I suspect that’s why they wanted to bring it in.

I myself tend not to bother at all if I have to wait 10/15 minutes in a line. Club has probably missed out on quite a few of my Pounds Sterling as a result.

Re: Club to go to cashless payments

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:48 pm
by Back of the net
We're Barrow not some PL club with a 1,000s day trippers. The negative publicity around this will have an impact on those living on a tight financial budget wanting to attend.

Re: Club to go to cashless payments

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:53 pm
by MisterPleasant
Back of the net wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:48 pm We're Barrow not some PL club with a 1,000s day trippers. The negative publicity around this will have an impact on those living on a tight financial budget wanting to attend.
When we're top of the league and sweeping all before us, it'll be forgotten. ;)

Re: Club to go to cashless payments

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 3:13 pm
by Back of the net
MisterPleasant wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:53 pm
Back of the net wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:48 pm We're Barrow not some PL club with a 1,000s day trippers. The negative publicity around this will have an impact on those living on a tight financial budget wanting to attend.
When we're top of the league and sweeping all before us, it'll be forgotten. ;)
Hope we do go top and still show compassion to those less fortunate.

Re: Club to go to cashless payments

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 5:14 pm
by Bombadel
Cromwell58 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:04 am
Bombadel wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 10:04 am

Owners lost 800k last season, call yourself a fan?
So should I hand them my wages is that what you do, I can promise you I have put more money in the club over the years than you unless you are the owner.
I’m not here to boast about how much I’ve put into the club, and I don’t go around a public forum telling people to just buy a ticket and boycott everything else to hit the owners in the pocket when they’ve lost a huge amount of money. Very poor behaviour, makes you sound like a juvenile.

Re: Club to go to cashless payments

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 5:33 pm
by BoltonBlue
Steeley wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 12:04 pm We all know for 95% of folk buying a ticket before match day or with a card on match day is not an issue.

However it will be for the small amount of people who don't have a card or don't use one (kids and some elderly).

When I started going to the soccer at 14ish I'd decide on the days if I had some cash off parents and mates were going to head down, there may have been times I'd planned to go so could have got a pre paid I guess.
It's probably not a financial hit the 50 or so kids we'd alienate with this setup but we'll never know the long impact, those kids could turn into trust members, ST holders, volunteers, staff or even board members.
Yes other teams do it already in the FL but this is Barrow, we should be welcoming all with open arms not saying "this is how it is if you can't get a card with £50 on it you can't come".
100% nailed it. Kids coming from financially struggling families probably wouldn’t know if they could attend until the day of the game, I know that was the case for myself.

Re: Club to go to cashless payments

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 5:42 pm
by Cromwell58
Bombadel wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 5:14 pm
Cromwell58 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:04 am

So should I hand them my wages is that what you do, I can promise you I have put more money in the club over the years than you unless you are the owner.
I’m not here to boast about how much I’ve put into the club, and I don’t go around a public forum telling people to just buy a ticket and boycott everything else to hit the owners in the pocket when they’ve lost a huge amount of money. Very poor behaviour, makes you sound like a juvenile.
Covid cost the club and i think its unjust to block certain members of society out and I do want I want with my money. For me this is on par with the idiot premier teams who thought they could start their own league.

Re: Club to go to cashless payments

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 5:51 pm
by Jon D
BoltonBlue wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 5:33 pm
Steeley wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 12:04 pm We all know for 95% of folk buying a ticket before match day or with a card on match day is not an issue.

However it will be for the small amount of people who don't have a card or don't use one (kids and some elderly).

When I started going to the soccer at 14ish I'd decide on the days if I had some cash off parents and mates were going to head down, there may have been times I'd planned to go so could have got a pre paid I guess.
It's probably not a financial hit the 50 or so kids we'd alienate with this setup but we'll never know the long impact, those kids could turn into trust members, ST holders, volunteers, staff or even board members.
Yes other teams do it already in the FL but this is Barrow, we should be welcoming all with open arms not saying "this is how it is if you can't get a card with £50 on it you can't come".
100% nailed it. Kids coming from financially struggling families probably wouldn’t know if they could attend until the day of the game, I know that was the case for myself.
100% correct.

Re: Club to go to cashless payments

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 6:38 pm
by Methuselah
This is only a suggestion but would it be possible to to give out a few free tickets to allow kids from such families the ability to watch Barrow play and maybe when their situation improves they will become loyal supporters in years to come.It has happened in the past when they were allowed in with each adult buying a ticket.

Re: Club to go to cashless payments

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 6:40 pm
by mickmike wilson
EABluebird wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:42 pm
Moribund wrote: ↑Sun Jul 18, 2021 12:20 pm It's discrimination against people who only want to pay by cheque.

I myself tend not to bother at all if I have to wait 10/15 minutes in a line. Club has probably missed out on quite a few of my Pounds Sterling as a result.
So you decide on attending, Travel to the ground then go home and miss the game if there’s a queue??

Why not just turn up a bit earlier??