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Re: WHING HAS TO GO
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2025 10:46 pm
by Jonty
Bingley Blue wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 10:23 pm
olbarrafancumbak wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 10:13 pm
If only the players and manager were as passionate as the fans.. we would be in the premier league by now...
if you think you are passionate just because you come on a forum and whinge when things are going wrong, then I would have another look at the definition of the word passionate.
Home games generally the fans are quiet and can’t really be described as passionate. Away from home, somewhat better but you’ve got to be slightly delusional to describe Barrow fans at the moment as passionate.
The football on offer over the last four years has helped to kill any passion. Barrow haven’t served up any regular excitement/entertainment on the pitch since the crowds came back since Covid.
Cooper - Wild - Clemence - and Whing have all put out teams that are as dull as dishwater. And Phil Beown was no better.
Agree, but with Wild, at least he came with a three year plan and what’s more he believed in “the process” as he called it and fans were on board with it. We fell short but I felt we were getting there. Whing bringing in McDonald doesn't seem to have done much as of yet, albeit early doors. I watched a very interesting recent interview with David Dunn, who was reflecting on his career and also his time here and in his words his downfall “we were drawing too many games” , “The board wanted me to play a certain way and pick up from the previous Manager (who was Evatt)”…. whats happened to that footballing philosophy now.. That’s well gone and Im not sure we know what our footballing identity is supposed to be.
Re: WHING HAS TO GO
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2025 10:58 pm
by bluessupporter
Jonty wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 10:46 pm
"The board wanted me to play a certain way"
I don't think Wood was on the Board then!
Re: WHING HAS TO GO
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2025 11:02 pm
by Jonty
bluessupporter wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 10:58 pm
Jonty wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 10:46 pm
"The board wanted me to play a certain way"
I don't think Wood was on the Board then!
That is quite true. I think as fans no one expected Evatt-ball to last forever, who knows how we’d have performed under Evatt in L2, which is a whole new ball game. Even at the highest level, the game has evolved, set pieces, long throws, diagonal passes over midfield, have started to take over playing it square out from the back.
Re: WHING HAS TO GO
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2025 11:03 pm
by Bigfathoss
bluessupporter wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 10:58 pm
Jonty wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 10:46 pm
"The board wanted me to play a certain way"
I don't think Wood was on the Board then!
Was he at the club? I bet he was whispering in ears. I'm one of the ones that think Wood is poison. I don't care if he helped out with getting the underneath of the stand sorted out.
I also don't care if Whing is a nice guy or not. It's not the criteria necessary for a successful manager. It's a nice-to-have.
I'd have mucho respect if the owners just said 'we should have backed Pete Wild'. Admitting a mistake is step one.
Re: WHING HAS TO GO
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2025 11:15 pm
by Main Stand SeasonTct
Bigfathoss wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 11:03 pm
bluessupporter wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 10:58 pm
I don't think Wood was on the Board then!
Was he at the club? I bet he was whispering in ears. I'm one of the ones that think Wood is poison. I don't care if he helped out with getting the underneath of the stand sorted out.
I also don't care if Whing is a nice guy or not. It's not the criteria necessary for a successful manager. It's a nice-to-have.
I'd have mucho respect if the owners just said 'we should have backed Pete Wild'. Admitting a mistake is step one.
Wood cane in after our second season in EFL and brought in Pete wild. He also set us up with the training facility we currently have with FC United as we had not settled anywhere for training and during our first two seasons the training set up was a shambles
Re: WHING HAS TO GO
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2025 11:22 pm
by Bigfathoss
Main Stand SeasonTct wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 11:15 pm
Bigfathoss wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 11:03 pm
Was he at the club? I bet he was whispering in ears. I'm one of the ones that think Wood is poison. I don't care if he helped out with getting the underneath of the stand sorted out.
I also don't care if Whing is a nice guy or not. It's not the criteria necessary for a successful manager. It's a nice-to-have.
I'd have mucho respect if the owners just said 'we should have backed Pete Wild'. Admitting a mistake is step one.
Wood cane in after our second season in EFL and brought in Pete wild. He also set us up with the training facility we currently have with FC United as we had not settled anywhere for training and during our first two seasons the training set up was a shambles
In your estimation, was Wood instrumental in Wild no longer being our manager?
Re: WHING HAS TO GO
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2025 11:28 pm
by Scott5
Neil McDonald to take over as caretaker ?
If we’re honest Whing should’ve gone two months ago and only a few spirited draws and a couple of hard fought wins with a bit of input from Rob Kelly saved him. I honestly thought he’d be gone then.
What’s more worrying for me with Whing is there’s no plan on what he’s going to do to change things, change of shape or anything else and you have to assume he’s just out of ideas and doesn’t know how to. Working their socks off and looking good in training hasn’t worked for 4 months and I have no confidence in him being able to rectify it now as that’s his only answer to every interview. I feel for him he’s giving his all but he’s clearly out of his depth and whilst I don’t think there’s a lack of effort from the players, there’s a real lack of guidance and leadership and as others have said, too many square pegs in round holes.
I would hope a change is made as soon as possible to allow someone else time to sort out who and what they want for January.
Re: WHING HAS TO GO
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2025 11:29 pm
by Main Stand SeasonTct
Bigfathoss wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 11:22 pm
Main Stand SeasonTct wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 11:15 pm
Wood cane in after our second season in EFL and brought in Pete wild. He also set us up with the training facility we currently have with FC United as we had not settled anywhere for training and during our first two seasons the training set up was a shambles
In your estimation, was Wood instrumental in Wild no longer being our manager?
I have no idea only the parties involved know what went on and that’s subject to an NDA. All I will say is judging by what Wild said on Fleetwood tv before they played us at Holker street he is still very very bitter about the way it all ended stating that he would have had us promoted in the top three had he been allowed to stay and sign a couple of more players.
Re: WHING HAS TO GO
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2025 11:33 pm
by Pedro
Scott5 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 11:28 pm
Neil McDonald to take over as caretaker ?
If we’re honest Whing should’ve gone two months ago and only a few spirited draws and a couple of hard fought wins with a bit of input from Rob Kelly saved him. I honestly thought he’d be gone then.
What’s more worrying for me with Whing is there’s no plan on what he’s going to do to change things, change of shape or anything else and you have to assume he’s just out of ideas and doesn’t know how to. Working their socks off and looking good in training hasn’t worked for 4 months and I have no confidence in him being able to rectify it now as that’s his only answer to every interview. I feel for him he’s giving his all but he’s clearly out of his depth and whilst I don’t think there’s a lack of effort from the players, there’s a real lack of guidance and leadership and as others have said, too many square pegs in round holes.
I would hope a change is made as soon as possible to allow someone else time to sort out who and what they want for January.
Think McDonald was here with Phil Brown not sure he is the answer but no Jason Taylor now.
Re: WHING HAS TO GO
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2025 9:05 am
by Cokey
Difficult one, as I really like Andy Whing. Just not seeing any glimpse of him being able to turn this around.
On Friday 19th December, we play our next league home game against Cheltenham. That will be 90 days since our last home win in the league. NINETY DAYS!
If he does go, I'd like to see us get Jason Taylor back from Rochdale.
Re: WHING HAS TO GO
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2025 9:24 am
by Blue Bayou
Cokey wrote: ↑Wed Dec 10, 2025 9:05 am
Difficult one, as I really like Andy Whing. Just not seeing any glimpse of him being able to turn this around.
On Friday 19th December, we play our next league home game against Cheltenham. That will be 90 days since our last home win in the league. NINETY DAYS!
If he does go, I'd like to see us get Jason Taylor back from Rochdale.
"Jason Taylor" agree, but at what price!
Re: WHING HAS TO GO
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2025 9:29 am
by bluessupporter
Blue Bayou wrote: ↑Wed Dec 10, 2025 9:24 am
Cokey wrote: ↑Wed Dec 10, 2025 9:05 am
Difficult one, as I really like Andy Whing. Just not seeing any glimpse of him being able to turn this around.
On Friday 19th December, we play our next league home game against Cheltenham. That will be 90 days since our last home win in the league. NINETY DAYS!
If he does go, I'd like to see us get Jason Taylor back from Rochdale.
"Jason Taylor" agree, but at what price!
And what price if we loose our EFL2 position? Support, income, and sponsorship massively down, and a very difficult chance to get back up. Can we afford that?
Re: WHING HAS TO GO
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2025 11:25 am
by WalneyOne
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results ( Einstein).
You don't need to be Einstein to know (as The Stranglers said) Something Better Change.
Re: WHING HAS TO GO
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2025 11:29 am
by Blue Bayou
WalneyOne wrote: ↑Wed Dec 10, 2025 11:25 am
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results ( Einstein).
You don't need to be Einstein to know (as The Stranglers said) Something Better Change.
"Something Better Change." And fast, the writings on the wall!
Re: WHING HAS TO GO
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2025 11:58 am
by bluessupporter
Just bumping this up as it's got lost in all the crap!