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Post by Bigfathoss » Fri May 13, 2022 8:58 am

Anyone else refreshing the official site every couple of minutes?
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Post by Big E » Fri May 13, 2022 9:13 am

bhbb wrote: ↑Thu May 12, 2022 10:41 pm Some absolute shite shouts on here 😂 why is everyone so keen on failed managers. Get someone in who’s built something on a budget instead of everyone else’s fast offs
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Post by Big E » Fri May 13, 2022 9:14 am

HenneysKnee wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 6:26 am
Pastor wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 1:42 am This is pure speculation on my part, but it could be that PB wasn't satisfied with the budget for players, the location of training, the absence of an academy or a combination of all three.
In which case the board did well not just to bow down to his demands if it turns out they were ridiculous; how many of us all thought the training in Barrow idea was stupid? Thankfully we have got rid rather than just let him spend another fortune on bad ideas, we’ve already done plenty of that since we got promoted
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Post by Etsjb » Fri May 13, 2022 10:10 am

RedWeb wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 7:33 am David Unsworth sounds like another David Dunn. Please tell me otherwise.
Far more experience for starters…and hasn’t failed at Oldham before coming to us.

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Re: Club Statement - Phil Brown

Post by Mrsbrown » Fri May 13, 2022 10:31 am

Etsjb wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 10:10 am
RedWeb wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 7:33 am David Unsworth sounds like another David Dunn. Please tell me otherwise.
Far more experience for starters…and hasn’t failed at Oldham before coming to us.

Teams managed
2010–2011 Preston North End (caretaker)
2011–2012 Preston North End (caretaker)
2013 Sheffield United (assistant)
2013–2014 Everton U23 (assistant)
2014–2022 Everton U23
2016 Everton (caretaker)
2017 Everton (caretaker)
So he hasn't managed for 5 years. Useful! Even worse than Brown! :lol:

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Re: Club Statement - Phil Brown

Post by Gazza » Fri May 13, 2022 10:34 am

Big E wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 9:14 am
HenneysKnee wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 6:26 am

In which case the board did well not just to bow down to his demands if it turns out they were ridiculous; how many of us all thought the training in Barrow idea was stupid? Thankfully we have got rid rather than just let him spend another fortune on bad ideas, we’ve already done plenty of that since we got promoted
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Or maybe he bombed us off for these reasons citing a lack of ambition?

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Post by Bigfathoss » Fri May 13, 2022 10:34 am

Mrsbrown wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 10:31 am
Etsjb wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 10:10 am

Far more experience for starters…and hasn’t failed at Oldham before coming to us.

Teams managed
2010–2011 Preston North End (caretaker)
2011–2012 Preston North End (caretaker)
2013 Sheffield United (assistant)
2013–2014 Everton U23 (assistant)
2014–2022 Everton U23
2016 Everton (caretaker)
2017 Everton (caretaker)
So he hasn't managed for 5 years. Useful! Even worse than Brown! :lol:
Or you could read the above a little more carefully...
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Post by Main Stand SeasonTct » Fri May 13, 2022 10:37 am

Mrsbrown wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 10:31 am
Etsjb wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 10:10 am

Far more experience for starters…and hasn’t failed at Oldham before coming to us.

Teams managed
2010–2011 Preston North End (caretaker)
2011–2012 Preston North End (caretaker)
2013 Sheffield United (assistant)
2013–2014 Everton U23 (assistant)
2014–2022 Everton U23
2016 Everton (caretaker)
2017 Everton (caretaker)
So he hasn't managed for 5 years. Useful! Even worse than Brown! :lol:
David Unsworth has been managing Everton U23 since 2017. He left Everton when Frank Lampard was appointed to further his managerial career elsewhere

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Re: Club Statement - Phil Brown

Post by Methuselah » Fri May 13, 2022 11:03 am

What I want to know is how have we gone from a done deal where only the terms had to be agreed to another period of uncertainty before the season starts .What our club needs is stability if we are to remain a football league club.This is the third season we are about to embark on with everything up in the air.We can,t carry on like this.How many players will be willing to stay with all that is going on.Personally until we have a settled squad with a manager fir more than one season I can only see us going backwards.

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Re: Club Statement - Phil Brown

Post by Barrow afc 2018 » Fri May 13, 2022 11:13 am

At the end of the day it doesn’t matter who it is, players or managers there is no loyalty in football it’s only about one thing the MONEY.

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Re: Club Statement - Phil Brown

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Methuselah wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 11:03 am What I want to know is how have we gone from a done deal where only the terms had to be agreed to another period of uncertainty before the season starts .What our club needs is stability if we are to remain a football league club.This is the third season we are about to embark on with everything up in the air.We can,t carry on like this.How many players will be willing to stay with all that is going on.Personally until we have a settled squad with a manager fir more than one season I can only see us going backwards.
I’d be surprised if anything is made public regarding why there was a deal breaker. We are mere supporters and not automatically privy to such things. As I’ve said earlier, guesswork is exhausting (and pointless). I agree with you about what we require, but getting harder to achieve. We are bound to be getting a reputation for being trigger happy with managers, but equally sending out a message that we don’t know what we are doing. I am 100% behind the owners, though this is based on their own money going in to keep the club going. At the moment it’s difficult to demand or question anything when fundamentally their footballing hearts are in the right place. I can’t help but wonder however, if there is an element of naïveté, and bullishness, which could be a dangerous combination. I also think all this will have a far from positive effect on the players. Many of the squad immediately in limbo. Adam’s next interview with PH will (or should) be captivating.

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Post by Cubbins Paratrooper » Fri May 13, 2022 12:31 pm

Methuselah wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 11:03 am What I want to know is how have we gone from a done deal where only the terms had to be agreed to another period of uncertainty before the season starts .What our club needs is stability if we are to remain a football league club.This is the third season we are about to embark on with everything up in the air.We can,t carry on like this.How many players will be willing to stay with all that is going on.Personally until we have a settled squad with a manager fir more than one season I can only see us going backwards.
'...a done deal where only terms had to be agreed.....'

A done deal is usually one where terms have been agreed, hence both the protagonists indicating that the contract had gone off to lawyers in advance of the crucial signing by the respective parties.

It would appear that one or both decided, with hindsight (and during the effective cooling off period common, for example, in many consumer contracts) that despite agreeing verbally, it was not actually for them. There are a million and one reasons why this could have occurred though the obvious ones you could probably count on one hand.

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Re: Club Statement - Phil Brown

Post by Lancaster Branch » Fri May 13, 2022 12:35 pm

Hitthebar22 wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 11:40 am I’d be surprised if anything is made public regarding why there was a deal breaker. We are mere supporters and not automatically privy to such things.
It’ll get out eventually, most things do. Get yourself up to the bar at the golf club, it’s usually the richest seam to mine if you’re after news on what’s happening.

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Re: Club Statement - Phil Brown

Post by RedWeb » Fri May 13, 2022 12:57 pm

Main Stand SeasonTct wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 10:37 am David Unsworth has been managing Everton U23 since 2017.
We need someone who has managed grizzled pros, not kids.
Main Stand SeasonTct wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 10:37 am He left Everton when Frank Lampard was appointed to further his managerial career elsewhere
How is that working out? Nae offence to the lad, but I'm not seeing anything which says to me he is our messiah.

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