Club Statement - Phil Brown

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Re: Club Statement - Phil Brown

Post by Main Stand SeasonTct » Wed May 18, 2022 5:36 pm

Mrsbrown wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 4:44 pm
Moribund wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 3:25 pm

Find it hard to believe that after weeks of back and forth they came to an agreement, only for Brown to demand a longer contract once they'd verbally agreed.
That's exactly what he does wherever he applies for a job. Once in post he goes on to demand more and more money for crap players. No doubt another agent involved somewhere too!

Mate of mine at Preston said to me "you've dodged a bullet there."
He learnt all the tricks of the trade from Sam Alladyce. Big Sam, Harry Redknapp and Phil Brown they are all cut from the same cloth.

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Post by Suffolk Blue » Wed May 18, 2022 5:53 pm

It would certainly fit the narrative of a contract agreed by both parties until one party decided they wanted more from the deal at the last moment.

A cynic might suggest that agreeing in principle to a contract and then throwing in a curved ball at the end is rather a crude tactic designed to catch you unawares.

It says a bit about the nature of the person chucking the curved ball too. I did notice that the statement put out by the BoD when it did come did not seek to explain. Just - ‘thank you and goodnight”

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Post by Alhosk » Wed May 18, 2022 8:46 pm

Perhaps it was more about the conditions of those 3 years on offer and any potential breaks if targets weren't met?

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Post by Barrasoccer2010 » Wed May 18, 2022 10:50 pm

I believe that the new sporting director is the reason Phil brown was never appointed, he has been in the club for a few week and he didn't believe he was the right man, now he's working hard to bring that man in :scarf:

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Post by Suffolk Blue » Wed May 18, 2022 11:10 pm

Barrasoccer2010 wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 10:50 pm I believe that the new sporting director is the reason Phil brown was never appointed, he has been in the club for a few week and he didn't believe he was the right man, now he's working hard to bring that man in :scarf:
If that were true then Phil could consider himself very hard done by. But it would be very unusual for a Sporting Director or DoF to just turn up and have an agreed contract with a prospective manager torn up.
More likely perhaps that the appointment of the Sporting Director was not disclosed to Phil Brown until the contract had been initially drawn up. Again though I would expect the role of a Sporting Director would be clearly defined in the Managers terms of reference in the contract. Either scenario would not reflect at all well on the BoD.

So most likely perhaps if it was about the Sporting Director, that Phil Brown negotiated the contract knowing about the SD but ultimately just could bot reconcile his role alongside it.

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Post by Hitthebar22 » Wed May 18, 2022 11:22 pm

Suffolk Blue wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 11:10 pm
Barrasoccer2010 wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 10:50 pm I believe that the new sporting director is the reason Phil brown was never appointed, he has been in the club for a few week and he didn't believe he was the right man, now he's working hard to bring that man in :scarf:
If that were true then Phil could consider himself very hard done by. But it would be very unusual for a Sporting Director or DoF to just turn up and have an agreed contract with a prospective manager torn up.
More likely perhaps that the appointment of the Sporting Director was not disclosed to Phil Brown until the contract had been initially drawn up. Again though I would expect the role of a Sporting Director would be clearly defined in the Managers terms of reference in the contract. Either scenario would not reflect at all well on the BoD.

So most likely perhaps if it was about the Sporting Director, that Phil Brown negotiated the contract knowing about the SD but ultimately just could bot reconcile his role alongside it.
Supposition, conjecture, exhausting. Of minimal interest now I’d say…..forwards to the new manager and the new team..

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Post by mall » Thu May 19, 2022 6:55 am

Hitthebar22 wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 11:22 pm
Suffolk Blue wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 11:10 pm

If that were true then Phil could consider himself very hard done by. But it would be very unusual for a Sporting Director or DoF to just turn up and have an agreed contract with a prospective manager torn up.
More likely perhaps that the appointment of the Sporting Director was not disclosed to Phil Brown until the contract had been initially drawn up. Again though I would expect the role of a Sporting Director would be clearly defined in the Managers terms of reference in the contract. Either scenario would not reflect at all well on the BoD.

So most likely perhaps if it was about the Sporting Director, that Phil Brown negotiated the contract knowing about the SD but ultimately just could bot reconcile his role alongside it.
Supposition, conjecture, exhausting. Of minimal interest now I’d say…..forwards to the new manager and the new team..
"forwards to the new manager and the new team..".
I couldn't agree more.........The past is the past, leave it there and move the club in a forward direction. Our destiny will never be found in the rear view mirror.

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Post by HenneysKnee » Thu May 19, 2022 8:09 am

Barrasoccer2010 wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 10:50 pm I believe that the new sporting director is the reason Phil brown was never appointed, he has been in the club for a few week and he didn't believe he was the right man, now he's working hard to bring that man in :scarf:
We’ll judge him properly on his signings but he already sounds like a sensible fella

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Re: Club Statement - Phil Brown

Post by db1967 » Fri May 27, 2022 6:36 pm

He’s after the Halifax gig now, speaks fondly of his time at Barrow. NOT!!

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Post by Bombadel » Fri May 27, 2022 6:48 pm

db1967 wrote: ↑Fri May 27, 2022 6:36 pm He’s after the Halifax gig now, speaks fondly of his time at Barrow. NOT!!
Didn’t say anything to harsh really, although to contradict him, we have a DOF, whereas they don’t.

"I've just left Barrow and there's an air of non-league about them, that they have to try desperately to shed as part of your DNA, your make-up. I didn't get that feeling at Halifax, there's no doubt for me it's a professional football club and it deserves its crack at the promotion campaign they'll be building next year."

Showing his interest in the Halifax job

https://www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/sport/ ... er-3712064

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Re: Club Statement - Phil Brown

Post by Pedro » Sun May 29, 2022 6:08 am

Bombadel wrote: ↑Fri May 27, 2022 6:48 pm
db1967 wrote: ↑Fri May 27, 2022 6:36 pm He’s after the Halifax gig now, speaks fondly of his time at Barrow. NOT!!
Didn’t say anything to harsh really, although to contradict him, we have a DOF, whereas they don’t.

"I've just left Barrow and there's an air of non-league about them, that they have to try desperately to shed as part of your DNA, your make-up. I didn't get that feeling at Halifax, there's no doubt for me it's a professional football club and it deserves its crack at the promotion campaign they'll be building next year."

Showing his interest in the Halifax job

https://www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/sport/ ... er-3712064
He is after their job hardly going to say I left because I wanted more money.
It will go something like I stepped in saved them at the last minute with a team that was totally disorganised.
He did his job and got us over the line.

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Re: Club Statement - Phil Brown

Post by Kieran » Sun May 29, 2022 9:50 am

Bombadel wrote: ↑Fri May 27, 2022 6:48 pm

"I've just left Barrow and there's an air of non-league about them, that they have to try desperately to shed as part of your DNA, your make-up. I didn't get that feeling at Halifax, there's no doubt for me it's a professional football club and it deserves its crack at the promotion campaign they'll be building next year."

Showing his interest in the Halifax job

https://www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/sport/ ... er-3712064
I think that is absolutely fair comment, there is undoubtedly still an air of non-league about us right throughout the club including us as supporters. Perhaps inevitable after so long out of the Football League but it exists and is something we absolutely must shake off sooner rather than later if we want to become an established Football League club.

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Re: Club Statement - Phil Brown

Post by Jim » Sun May 29, 2022 10:00 am

Kieran wrote: ↑Sun May 29, 2022 9:50 am

I think that is absolutely fair comment, there is undoubtedly still an air of non-league about us right throughout the club including us as supporters. Perhaps inevitable after so long out of the Football League but it exists and is something we absolutely must shake off sooner rather than later if we want to become an established Football League club.
Perhaps we need to start playing like one on the pitch! ;)

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Post by RedWeb » Sun May 29, 2022 10:05 am

Kieran wrote: ↑Sun May 29, 2022 9:50 am I think that is absolutely fair comment, there is undoubtedly still an air of non-league about us right throughout the club including us as supporters.
Very good point. Still too much of the "I'll take 3rd bottom" rubbish flying around. If that's our ambition we might as well be in the NL and win a few games.

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Post by Gazza » Sun May 29, 2022 11:09 am

RedWeb wrote: ↑Sun May 29, 2022 10:05 am
Kieran wrote: ↑Sun May 29, 2022 9:50 am I think that is absolutely fair comment, there is undoubtedly still an air of non-league about us right throughout the club including us as supporters.
Very good point. Still too much of the "I'll take 3rd bottom" rubbish flying around. If that's our ambition we might as well be in the NL and win a few games.
Spot on. Yes finishing 3rd bottom keeps u in the EFL and therefore the extra money continues to come in but the biggest issue with that mentality over a few seasons is that it will eventually bite u on the arse, a la Scunthorpe this season.

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