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Re: Ollie Banks

Post by tictactoe » Mon Jun 20, 2022 10:39 pm

Did Banks “go off the boil” as people say only when Rooney came back?
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Post by liverpoolann » Mon Jun 20, 2022 10:46 pm

Shame it didn’t work out for Ollie was a good player for us and will never forget the cup wonder goal.He really cared and I think some bookings caused by frustration when others went missing in games not pulling their weight.All the best in future Ollie and thank you cos we would be down and out without his goals.

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Re: Ollie Banks

Post by Bingo » Mon Jun 20, 2022 10:47 pm

Pedro wrote: ↑Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:32 pm Ollie seemed to go of the boil once he signed the new contract.
Seems we are looking to cut the budget and replacing players who will be paid less.
I am not saying thats wrong .
I suppose the cost of paying him till we got a fee meant it was better to let him go.
Chesterfield are saying he is going there as he has worked with Paul Cook before

I very much doubt the decision to let him leave was based on wanting to bring in cheaper players. If he wasn't in the managers plans then best to let him go.

I'm sure Pete wild will have a decent budget to play with.

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Post by Suffolk Blue » Mon Jun 20, 2022 11:02 pm

IMO the signing of Rooney was the catalyst for Banks demise. As soon as Rooney appeared it was clear that he was going to be the leader on the field. He also plays in an attacking midfield position which given the lack of goals being scored was always going to give him in a prominent role in the squad and one that would lead to the team virtually adapting its style of play around him. I'm not knocking this. Rooneys return was one of the most positive things to happen to us at an otherwise very poor stage of the season.

However you can track the falling off of Ollies form to around the same time and I dont think that is coincidental. The issue is why given this situation the club chose to deal with Ollie by granting him a long contract and bigging up his role as club captain. Fast forward a month. Ollies form has gone, his disciplinary record has finally caught up with him, references are being made to the possibility that he's burned out, that he tries too hard, that he is not a team player, references not only posted on this forum but coming out of Coopers camp.

His form didn't return. We wont get the old Ollie back for the duration of his contract and the relationship broke down to the extent that we wont even get a fee for the guy. This is not a good news story for Barrow AFC.

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Re: Ollie Banks

Post by mickmike wilson » Tue Jun 21, 2022 2:13 am

HenneysKnee wrote: ↑Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:45 pm
Pedro wrote: ↑Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:32 pm Ollie seemed to go of the boil once he signed the new contract.
Seems we are looking to cut the budget and replacing players who will be paid less.
I am not saying thats wrong .
Or are we using the budget more wisely? Wild said he wanted 2 players for every position, last year we barely had 1 for some positions
Imo more wisely.

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Post by mr_grey » Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:00 am

mickmike wilson wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 2:13 am
HenneysKnee wrote: ↑Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:45 pm

Or are we using the budget more wisely? Wild said he wanted 2 players for every position, last year we barely had 1 for some positions
Imo more wisely.
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Re: Ollie Banks

Post by Jeeby » Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:58 am

Wonder what it actually cost the club to facilitate these "left by mutual consent" deals. Not sure of the details, but didnt Cooper have 2 years left on his contract, same with Banks and a year for Zanzala ? I assume they all walked away with a wodge of cash in their back pockets ?

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Re: Ollie Banks

Post by sempre contigo » Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:19 pm

Jeeby wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:58 am Wonder what it actually cost the club to facilitate these "left by mutual consent" deals. Not sure of the details, but didnt Cooper have 2 years left on his contract, same with Banks and a year for Zanzala ? I assume they all walked away with a wodge of cash in their back pockets ?
If you ain't in your bosses plans then the only option you have is to fight tooth and nail for your place ahead of the current players the manager likes and are firmly in his plans, plus then any new signings that will no doubt get game time. In reality you're looking at a lot of time spent out of favour sat on the bench watching your short playing career time waste away and then hoping someone comes along in Jan and rescues you from such misery.

Cancelling your contract in mutual agreement with the club knowing that other clubs are interested and you'll be a free agent to negotiate is a no brainer. Doubt they'll be sat around trying to squeeze a payout too. It's win win for both parties and also goes with the best wishes from all the fans.

Cooper was no doubt sacked with no guarantee of another job, that one will have cost us for sure. Thankfully that worked out well for us though.
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Re: Ollie Banks

Post by Big_Bluebird » Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:27 pm

Replacement is in the building

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Re: Ollie Banks

Post by Matty » Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:37 pm

Jeeby wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:58 am Wonder what it actually cost the club to facilitate these "left by mutual consent" deals. Not sure of the details, but didnt Cooper have 2 years left on his contract, same with Banks and a year for Zanzala ? I assume they all walked away with a wodge of cash in their back pockets ?
Surely mutual termination means that we don't need to pay up the rest of their contract? The player will no doubt agree to terminate as they'd have something else lined up, otherwise they'd sit around taking the money.
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Re: Ollie Banks

Post by Suffolk Blue » Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:50 pm

Mutual consent basically means both parties agree. It doesn’t necessarily mean that there is no financial attachment to the consent.

If you ask the question “ if I give you a wedge are you happy to consent to cancelling your contract?” And you say yes then that would be deemed as mutual consent.

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Re: Ollie Banks

Post by Hadrian » Tue Jun 21, 2022 1:14 pm

Could work either way, of course.
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Re: Ollie Banks

Post by HenneysKnee » Tue Jun 21, 2022 1:55 pm

Big_Bluebird wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:27 pm Replacement is in the building
A replacement or an upgrade? Baring in mind Banks was only on the bench you’d be looking for someone to start alongside Rooney and Gotts if they are “replacing” (I.e getting the same money) as Banks, not just a sub

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Re: Ollie Banks

Post by Arvo » Tue Jun 21, 2022 2:10 pm

Suffolk Blue wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:50 pm Mutual consent basically means both parties agree. It doesn’t necessarily mean that there is no financial attachment to the consent.

If you ask the question “ if I give you a wedge are you happy to consent to cancelling your contract?” And you say yes then that would be deemed as mutual consent.
First read that as “if I give you a wedgie are you happy to consent to cancelling your contract?”

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Re: Ollie Banks

Post by FanzoneFan » Tue Jun 21, 2022 2:38 pm

Jeeby wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:58 am Wonder what it actually cost the club to facilitate these "left by mutual consent" deals. Not sure of the details, but didnt Cooper have 2 years left on his contract, same with Banks and a year for Zanzala ? I assume they all walked away with a wodge of cash in their back pockets ?
Cooper had slightly over 2 years left on his contract - I would have thought he would have expected at least 1 year to be paid up.

Zanzala had a season - he’s not just going to walk away and expect nothing. Why would he do that - probably got 4 or 5 months.

Banks 2 years left - if he was desperate to go might have taken 3 or 4 months if he knew he was going to take up another 2 year contract at Chesterfield- but there’s no way he would go there and find himself out of pocket over the next two years

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