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Re: Billy waters

Post by Big_Bluebird » Thu Mar 23, 2023 7:44 pm

Bought as cover for mullin but is waters even a striker? Played more as a 10 for us or out wide. Mullen is a out and out number 9

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Re: Billy waters

Post by SKIPPER » Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:59 pm

Hope for his sake he is more onside with Wrexhams' demanding fans than the last two Bluebirds they had. Paul Rutherford and Dior Angus both still attract derogatory comments when compared to the big-money imports of the last couple of years despite giving their best for the club.Ruthers made nearly 200 appearances over 5 years and Dior was hampered by injury and Covid.

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Re: Billy waters

Post by Wildwolf » Thu Mar 23, 2023 10:08 pm

SKIPPER wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:59 pm Hope for his sake he is more onside with Wrexhams' demanding fans than the last two Bluebirds they had. Paul Rutherford and Dior Angus both still attract derogatory comments when compared to the big-money imports of the last couple of years despite giving their best for the club.Ruthers made nearly 200 appearances over 5 years and Dior was hampered by injury and Covid.
I believe Billy was on good money here circa £1500 a week. :skill:

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Re: Billy waters

Post by Suffolk Blue » Thu Mar 23, 2023 10:22 pm

Wildwolf wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 10:08 pm
SKIPPER wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:59 pm Hope for his sake he is more onside with Wrexhams' demanding fans than the last two Bluebirds they had. Paul Rutherford and Dior Angus both still attract derogatory comments when compared to the big-money imports of the last couple of years despite giving their best for the club.Ruthers made nearly 200 appearances over 5 years and Dior was hampered by injury and Covid.
I believe Billy was on good money here circa £1500 a week. :skill:
Mullin will probably be on three times that.

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Re: Billy waters

Post by Wintergreen » Fri Mar 24, 2023 9:01 am

Five times that nearer the mark. Fare well Billy the Fish.
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Re: Billy waters

Post by Pedro » Fri Mar 24, 2023 11:10 am

I think PW probably disappointed with Billy Waters thinking he owed him some loyalty because he brought him to a Football League club.
Waters gave 100% but to me and he is not the only one was not good enough.
The player has to do what's best for him and he gave his all when playing for us.
I think it's good business we are safe in the league and I am more concerned about Brough leaving.

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Re: Billy waters

Post by Jonty » Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:58 pm

Pedro wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 11:10 am I think PW probably disappointed with Billy Waters thinking he owed him some loyalty because he brought him to a Football League club.
Waters gave 100% but to me and he is not the only one was not good enough.
The player has to do what's best for him and he gave his all when playing for us.
I think it's good business we are safe in the league and I am more concerned about Brough leaving.
Not sure if this move would have happened if we’d have been in the top 7 but with Waters now gone it leaves us with even fewer attacking options. Our goalscoring is the lowest in the top half of the table and apart from Kay / Whitfield (early on in season), we don’t score too many from elsewhere. Yep gonna end up in mid table which is a good first season for Wild but it would be nice to finish on a +ve goal difference.
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Re: Billy waters

Post by 32mile_cul-de-sac » Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:30 pm

Could be a board decision, sell a player and get money for or let him go in the summer for nowt. A no brainer for me.

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Re: Billy waters

Post by Main Stand SeasonTct » Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:52 pm

32mile_cul-de-sac wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:30 pm Could be a board decision, sell a player and get money for or let him go in the summer for nowt. A no brainer for me.
Unlike Brough, Gordon and a few more Waters had another year on his contract so any move in the summer would have commanded a fee.

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Re: Billy waters

Post by 32mile_cul-de-sac » Fri Mar 24, 2023 2:18 pm

Main Stand SeasonTct wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:52 pm
32mile_cul-de-sac wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:30 pm Could be a board decision, sell a player and get money for or let him go in the summer for nowt. A no brainer for me.
Unlike Brough, Gordon and a few more Waters had another year on his contract so any move in the summer would have commanded a fee.
not necessarily, contracts can be terminated my mutual agreement as with Stevens and Brown recently show.

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Re: Billy waters

Post by Methuselah » Fri Mar 24, 2023 2:50 pm

Wherever we end up this season,the board now owes Pete Wild for next season.It has been obvious for most of this season,we have not got a player who can dominate the box when a cross comes in.If it means spending money to bring such a player in,it will have to be done.There is no way that Pete Wild should be blamed for the under performance of the players,which was plainly obvious in the game against Harrogate.If we want our team to succeed the board within reason should enable Pete Wild to go out and get suitable players for next season,otherwise we as a club will end up on a downward spiral after such a refreshing change at the beginning of this season.Pete Wild has a five year plan,so give him the players to make that plan a success.Hopefully it will happen

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Re: Billy waters

Post by Main Stand SeasonTct » Fri Mar 24, 2023 3:08 pm

32mile_cul-de-sac wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 2:18 pm
Main Stand SeasonTct wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:52 pm

Unlike Brough, Gordon and a few more Waters had another year on his contract so any move in the summer would have commanded a fee.
not necessarily, contracts can be terminated my mutual agreement as with Stevens and Brown recently show.
Both only had few months left on their contract. If it's as easy as you make it sound why couldn't we got the contract of Ellis terminated at the start of this season or Mike Jones last season ?
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Re: Billy waters

Post by Hitthebar22 » Fri Mar 24, 2023 3:14 pm

Methuselah wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 2:50 pm Wherever we end up this season,the board now owes Pete Wild for next season.It has been obvious for most of this season,we have not got a player who can dominate the box when a cross comes in.If it means spending money to bring such a player in,it will have to be done.There is no way that Pete Wild should be blamed for the under performance of the players,which was plainly obvious in the game against Harrogate.If we want our team to succeed the board within reason should enable Pete Wild to go out and get suitable players for next season,otherwise we as a club will end up on a downward spiral after such a refreshing change at the beginning of this season.Pete Wild has a five year plan,so give him the players to make that plan a success.Hopefully it will happen
The only problem with this is not knowing how much money will be available. In other words, how deep are the directors/owners pockets and how much will they be willing to spend on Barrow?
A bit like the old joke…..Q. How do you make a small fortune? A. Start with a large fortune, then buy a football club.

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Re: Billy waters

Post by MisterPleasant » Fri Mar 24, 2023 3:35 pm

Methuselah wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2023 2:50 pm Wherever we end up this season,the board now owes Pete Wild for next season.It has been obvious for most of this season,we have not got a player who can dominate the box when a cross comes in.If it means spending money to bring such a player in,it will have to be done.There is no way that Pete Wild should be blamed for the under performance of the players,which was plainly obvious in the game against Harrogate.If we want our team to succeed the board within reason should enable Pete Wild to go out and get suitable players for next season,otherwise we as a club will end up on a downward spiral after such a refreshing change at the beginning of this season.Pete Wild has a five year plan,so give him the players to make that plan a success.Hopefully it will happen
Haven't we just paid a club record fee for Garner?
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Re: Billy waters

Post by Rtw6095 » Fri Mar 24, 2023 5:19 pm

Underperformance? We're 10th in the league. 7 points off the play offs. Give your head a shake.

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