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National League Final

Post by sambino » Fri May 30, 2025 7:25 pm

Shouting for Oldham to win the play off.
Loosing Carlisle and Morecambe will cost us a lot of revenue next season.Oldham would bring a lot here I would expect which would make up a bit of the short fall and have happy memories of our visit there in the FA cup.

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Re: National League Final

Post by behind the goals » Fri May 30, 2025 8:42 pm

Also losing Bradford, Port Vale & Doncaster in fact we have lost some good away followings in recent Seasons Wrexham, Stockport & Mansfield spring to mind, getting back to the NL Final a crowd of 50,000+ is expected.

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Post by FanzoneFan » Sat May 31, 2025 10:46 am

behind the goals wrote: ↑Fri May 30, 2025 8:42 pm Also losing Bradford, Port Vale & Doncaster in fact we have lost some good away followings in recent Seasons Wrexham, Stockport & Mansfield spring to mind, getting back to the NL Final a crowd of 50,000+ is expected.
Apparently there would have been more but one of the Wembley train stations is having planned engineering work and they’ve had to restrict the attendance you really couldn’t make it up also begs the question why not play the final at a Premier League ground. A few years ago Wimbledon played Luton in the final - Jason Walker I think was playing that day, and they switched the match to Man City’s ground because Wembley was unavailable, what made it worse was they charged a fortune for the tickets so I think only around 19 k attended. Why didn’t they just play it at a southern based ground ? And when Salford took on Fylde it was played in front of about 8k at Wembley when it was crying out to be played at say Blackburn or Preston.

Also on the point of the National League the play offs, they are normally completed in around a week so if you progress you’ve got an advantage in that the team you’re playing hasn’t had much rest. That’s not been the case this season there’s been a week off between each game.

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Post by SKIPPER » Sat May 31, 2025 11:03 am

Wonder if Billy Waters will be involved. Injured since March but has been back in training for the last couple of weeks.

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Post by Main Stand SeasonTct » Sat May 31, 2025 11:12 am

FanzoneFan wrote: ↑Sat May 31, 2025 10:46 am
behind the goals wrote: ↑Fri May 30, 2025 8:42 pm Also losing Bradford, Port Vale & Doncaster in fact we have lost some good away followings in recent Seasons Wrexham, Stockport & Mansfield spring to mind, getting back to the NL Final a crowd of 50,000+ is expected.

Also on the point of the National League the play offs, they are normally completed in around a week so if you progress you’ve got an advantage in that the team you’re playing hasn’t had much rest. That’s not been the case this season there’s been a week off between each game.
I think momentum is massive in play offs and imo Southend and Oldham have had it. Both FGR and York had to wait to see who there opponent would be in the semi finals whilst Oldham and Southend played to qualify for the semi final. They both had good wins fans and players were buzzing and they had the momentum going into their games against FGR and York who had to wait two weeks before playing their play off semi finals

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Post by StephenD » Sat May 31, 2025 11:40 am

As the regular complaint about the number of relegation places from League 2 gets mentioned at this time of year I find it interesting how all seven teams in the NL automatics or playoffs are ex Football League teams. In the last four seasons only Bromley of the eight who have rejoined or are about to join Football League were / are new rather than returning.

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Re: National League Final

Post by spirit of 1990 » Sat May 31, 2025 2:28 pm

FanzoneFan wrote: ↑Sat May 31, 2025 10:46 am
behind the goals wrote: ↑Fri May 30, 2025 8:42 pm Also losing Bradford, Port Vale & Doncaster in fact we have lost some good away followings in recent Seasons Wrexham, Stockport & Mansfield spring to mind, getting back to the NL Final a crowd of 50,000+ is expected.
Apparently there would have been more but one of the Wembley train stations is having planned engineering work and they’ve had to restrict the attendance you really couldn’t make it up also begs the question why not play the final at a Premier League ground. A few years ago Wimbledon played Luton in the final - Jason Walker I think was playing that day, and they switched the match to Man City’s ground because Wembley was unavailable, what made it worse was they charged a fortune for the tickets so I think only around 19 k attended. Why didn’t they just play it at a southern based ground ? And when Salford took on Fylde it was played in front of about 8k at Wembley when it was crying out to be played at say Blackburn or Preston.

Also on the point of the National League the play offs, they are normally completed in around a week so if you progress you’ve got an advantage in that the team you’re playing hasn’t had much rest. That’s not been the case this season there’s been a week off between each game.

Both sets of fans are very unhappy at the shambles that has unfolded - with the NL committee coming in for a lot of stick. TBF, no one knows who will be in any final and stadiums need booking well in advance, even that Salford v Fylde game probably never had a chance to be shifted as most stadiums would’ve been undergoing pitch work.
The one thing that does get mentioned a lot is the national stadium should’ve been built more centrally….the midlands. I suppose there’s plenty of arguments both for and against that but it does seem reasonable.
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Re: National League Final

Post by Main Stand SeasonTct » Sat May 31, 2025 3:11 pm

spirit of 1990 wrote: ↑Sat May 31, 2025 2:28 pm
The one thing that does get mentioned a lot is the national stadium should’ve been built more centrally….the midlands. I suppose there’s plenty of arguments both for and against that but it does seem reasonable.
The national stadium should be in the countries capital city imo. If you look at other major sports in England their premier arenas are in and around London. Lords the home of cricket, Twickenham Rugby union Wimbledon for Tennis and Royal Ascot horse racing.
What it does not do though is mean that the National stadium in this case Wembley should always be used for every England international and all play off finals imo. We have plenty of fantastic modern state of the art stadia now all over England that could and should be considered and used for such fixtures

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Re: National League Final

Post by Suffolk Blue » Sat May 31, 2025 3:14 pm

So last week I believe the ticket allocation for this game was increased from 30000 to 50000 once it was known who the two finalists were.

This would have been in full knowledge of the fact that Transport For London had long since scheduled engineering works that means that Wembley Central tube station will be closed at that time. Hence the chaos that will now ensue.

Should be a good game. Doubt many bluebirds supporters will be wanting a Southend win for obvious geographical reasons. However bear in mind that Oldham are now a financially well backed club again and are probably more likely to make a positive impact in L2. They would also be fishing in the same pond as us for players.

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Re: National League Final

Post by bluessupporter » Sat May 31, 2025 5:57 pm

Owner of OA just been on TV to say they've released another 3000 tickets.

If they wln, will this be one of our local derbies? :D
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Re: National League Final

Post by behind the goals » Sat May 31, 2025 7:31 pm

SKIPPER wrote: ↑Sat May 31, 2025 11:03 am Wonder if Billy Waters will be involved. Injured since March but has been back in training for the last couple of weeks.
Josh Kay also back training.

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Re: National League Final

Post by HenneysKnee » Sun Jun 01, 2025 4:32 am

Main Stand SeasonTct wrote: ↑Sat May 31, 2025 3:11 pm If you look at other major sports in England their premier arenas are in and around London. Royal Ascot horse racing.
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Re: National League Final

Post by Suffolk Blue » Sun Jun 01, 2025 11:01 am

HenneysKnee wrote: ↑Sun Jun 01, 2025 4:32 am
Main Stand SeasonTct wrote: ↑Sat May 31, 2025 3:11 pm If you look at other major sports in England their premier arenas are in and around London. Royal Ascot horse racing.
*Cheltenham*
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Re: National League Final

Post by behind the goals » Sun Jun 01, 2025 2:03 pm

behind the goals wrote: ↑Sat May 31, 2025 7:31 pm
SKIPPER wrote: ↑Sat May 31, 2025 11:03 am Wonder if Billy Waters will be involved. Injured since March but has been back in training for the last couple of weeks.
Josh Kay also back training.
Both not in Squad today.

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Re: National League Final

Post by behind the goals » Sun Jun 01, 2025 2:14 pm

For anyone interested match coverage now on BBC Radio Manchester Freeview Channel 711.

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