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Re: Corona

Post by Sefton Aubergine » Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:13 am

chipmunx wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:06 am
Sefton Aubergine wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:56 am A few facts for some of the medical "experts"... Comparing this virus to flu is idiotic. The death rates from the most common strains of flu are between 1.25 and 2.5 of 1 percent. The death rates from this virus at the moment is 3 percent making it 15 times more likely to kill.

People suffering from this virus will need isolated high dependency care. The estimated best and worst case scenarios for the numbers needing such care is 10,000 to 300,000. Nationally there are approximately 4,500 ITU beds but with a 20% shortage of skilled ITU staff and it is these developing numbers that the government will be advised to act upon. The self isolation, crowd bans, or eventual lock down programmes, that are becoming increasingly likely, will all be to avoid the demand on high dependency care being needed all at once.

The estimated peak for this virus is mid to the end of April depending on the decisions made at this next COBRA meeting but the medical advice being urged to the government is that much stronger action is needed sooner.

My opinion is that, depending on the size of the cap on crowd gatherings the Wrexham game could be our last home game with a crowd for a while.
the most common strains of flu maybe - but every now and again their is a stronger strain with similar effects to this. like the 1918 "Spanish Flu" which led to 550,000 deaths in the US alone.
I'm not sure what your point is in comparing the 1918 spanish flu... The vaccination programmes for decades since make this pointless.

This virus needs to be treated individually and it's demand on high dependency treatment, the spaces for such treatment and the lack of staff to deliver the treatment.

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Re: Corona

Post by xerxes » Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:44 am

Sefton Aubergine wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:56 am The death rates from the most common strains of flu are between 1.25 and 2.5 of 1 percent. The death rates from this virus at the moment is 3 percent making it 15 times more likely to kill.
Something wrong with your maths there, unless I'm misunderstanding what you mean by "between 1.25 and 2.5 of 1 percent"?

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Re: Corona

Post by Sefton Aubergine » Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:46 am

A quarter of 1% or less.

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Re: Corona

Post by barrowfan » Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:08 am

827 deaths in Italy and rising. Tells its own story.

I gather the government is going to announce details of the next phase today.

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Re: Corona

Post by BAFC_98 » Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:22 am

I think its an over reaction. Im in agreement with what Blue future is saying.

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Post by barrowfan » Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:43 am

Death rate from Corona at the moment is 3%. Flu is 1%.

827 deaths in Italy up to now, and people think it's not serious?

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Re: Corona

Post by BAFC_98 » Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:59 am

barrowfan wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:43 am Death rate from Corona at the moment is 3%. Flu is 1%.

827 deaths in Italy up to now, and people think it's not serious?
Good job Barrow don't play in Italy then. Hope your locked in your bedroom and don't come out.

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Post by JammyBluebird » Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:17 am

BAFC_98 wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:59 am
barrowfan wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:43 am Death rate from Corona at the moment is 3%. Flu is 1%.

827 deaths in Italy up to now, and people think it's not serious?
Good job Barrow don't play in Italy then. Hope your locked in your bedroom and don't come out.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... try/italy/

If you look at trajectory of cases we're pretty much in line with where Italy was 2 weeks ago

If you assume mortality rates are similar and the trajectory of infection is similar (UK is a lot more densely populated) then we'll be where Italy are before not too long.

Also worth noting that Italy has a higher Capacity per Head of ICU's than the UK and in some places they are nearly overwhelmed.

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Re: Corona

Post by bamber678 » Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:22 pm

blue future wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 9:00 pm
geobarrovian wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 8:55 pm

Jesus Christ Hun
Why Jesus Christ?
Does the normal flu worry you?
How many elderly die of the flu in barrow every year? 10 or more?
How many young and middle aged do? None maybe one
Don’t panic wash your hands catch your sneezes and coughs and not a problem
Sneezing isn’t a symptom of it so all the snowflake hypochondriacs that think they have it will only have a cold

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Re: Corona

Post by BAFC_98 » Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:23 pm

bamber678 wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:22 pm
blue future wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 9:00 pm

Why Jesus Christ?
Does the normal flu worry you?
How many elderly die of the flu in barrow every year? 10 or more?
How many young and middle aged do? None maybe one
Don’t panic wash your hands catch your sneezes and coughs and not a problem
Sneezing isn’t a symptom of it so all the snowflake hypochondriacs that think they have it will only have a cold
:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Corona

Post by BAFC_98 » Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:24 pm

BAFC_98 wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:23 pm
bamber678 wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:22 pm

Sneezing isn’t a symptom of it so all the snowflake hypochondriacs that think they have it will only have a cold
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Plenty of snowflakes about

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Re: Corona

Post by barrowfan » Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:26 pm

If you stand next to someone who has it, for 8 minutes or more, you could get it, and you don't want games played behind closed doors? :roll:

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Re: Corona

Post by BAFC_98 » Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:27 pm

barrowfan wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:26 pm If you stand next to someone who has it, for 8 minutes or more, you could get it, and you don't want games played behind closed doors? :roll:
No. As ive said, games behind closed doors are utterly pointless and will damage many clubs.

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Re: Corona

Post by barrowfan » Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:31 pm

BAFC_98 wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:27 pm
barrowfan wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:26 pm If you stand next to someone who has it, for 8 minutes or more, you could get it, and you don't want games played behind closed doors? :roll:
No. As ive said, games behind closed doors are utterly pointless and will damage many clubs.

Can't see it being practical to have a break and start again due to the knock-on effect, so the alternative is to expunge this season and we have to start all over again! Do you want that?

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Re: Corona

Post by xerxes » Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:38 pm

bamber678 wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:22 pm Sneezing isn’t a symptom of it so all the snowflake hypochondriacs that think they have it will only have a cold
We need a new word for the coronavirus equivalent of 'man flu'! :)

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